He makes some needless moves... And some that dont work against real people that well. Everyone makes mistakes.

To be fair to TOAD, that was one of probably over 50 tracks i have of us going 1 on 1, as we enjoy sparring with each other 1v1, same plane fuel etc....

It was certainly not the best flying he's ever done, nor myself.

I've got a track somewhere, of us both running out of fuel (started with 25%) without either of us getting a shot on each other, but 17mins is not an ideal youtube watch, great fight and one of my favourites though....

some fights are over in seconds, so.....

as you say Erkki everyone makes mistakes, well apart from some of the snobs on this forum (not aimed at you erkki) who are obviously perfect, lol.

the vid did however show 6dof very well, hence the posting in this thread, it wasn't suppose to be an example of how i'm the best pilot in the world......

I was being humorous about Toad, Erkki. I was hoping that noone jumped on it the wrong way but voila. I'll show you BFM's biatch!

Which is a good point... even if somewhat misapplied in this case.. Having 6DoF or competing against someone that has it when you don't is not a cut & dried issue.. If a person is not a good pilot or competing a against a better one having 6DoF is not an end all answer to victory, which is sometimes why I think so many people who either can't afford or are just too cheap to buy a TIR think.. (because let's face it.. if TIR was $50 just about everyone else would have one.. as it is now.. just about everyone has one... or some free equvivalent)

Even against a live pilot 6DoF is fine...

I know! Thats why I don't upload my tracks and the utub vids have the entertainment only disclaimer, too many mistakes! How couldn't I see that La-5?!? :) The moment I start thinking this game has nothing to teach anymore I might as well quit as theres little left to enjoy.

Well, having read through all the posts, it seems that if opinion is listened to, there may be a chance of seeing this in a future patch?

Looking at the Poll result and seeing it has stayed at a steady 85%, I hope that TD will at-least consider listening to popular opinion?

Currently we are able to turn our heads to look behind and with 5-DoF it would be possible to lean left/right a little and if possible the 6-DoF gives a slight upward movement too.

If 6-DoF is really a step too-far, maybe 5-DoF would be a compromise that could be considered?

I am however running this thread and Poll for 6-DoF and 85% of respondents have said they would love to have the option to switch it on or off, as their choice, I just hope that popular opinion can be considered?

Cheers, MP

For some reason I'm not able to sleep tonight.

Ah I see, my ears are burning. LOL

S! Kimosabi

For the record, Fruitbat handles the Emil better than I do.

I can only stay him off, till a draw most times.

And alot of times both of us, do stupid stuff, just trying to see if it works.

In that film, I did a bunch of testing stuff that didn't work.

1vs1 same aircraft allows and forces things like that when tow pilots are evenly matched, and your forcing the aircraft beyond its limits.

It has nothing to do with real world tactics at all.

But it will mark the better pilot, and show you that you are or are not getting the most out of the machine.

While I'm at it, I might as well show you how to pick some fruit, Fruitbat that is. ;-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_03eBdE72WM

I voted yes, of course. In fact, the lack of 6DoF is the only reason why I dont play on no-mods servers. If 6DoF Tracker was implemented in the stock game I would play on more servers, rather than the usual 1 or 2 where I play all the time.

There are *lots* of servers showing up in Xfire (but not on HL), and I mean servers with people in, but most of them are no-mods. With 6DoF I would give them a try.

Well, apart from headshake, 6DOF in CoD is prettywell exactly as the IL2 mod version other than for a smoother Z axis. All the arguments for a more realistic version in Il1946 have not been implemented in CoD as was rumoured.

Are there any arguments left...?
 

What else do we need to get 6DoF...!!!

I mean, after what we have seen lately.

Salutes.