I think i'm going to agree on the black exhaust trails being a function of too rich a fuel mixture. However, there are some cases where it might be realistic to see this.

It has been observed by allied pilots, when 109s or 190s suddenly went to full throttle when bounced.
The reason is probably that they didn't have digital computers but analog auto-mixture systems, so it took some time for the mixture to stabilize properly. So, when they went from economy/patrol cruise to full throttle in the blink of an eye sometimes a black trail could be observed, but it went away as soon as the auto-mixture stabilized to the correct value.

I don't remember where i saw it (that's my main problem really, i have a good memory but i don't keep a list of references handy for flight sim forum debates :grin: ), but it was cited by experienced allied pilots as a means of understanding when the German fighters advanced to full throttle. Of course, it could probably be used by experienced German pilots as well to mask their change in power settings by advancing the throttle smoothly in order not to give off the tell-tale smoke trail, thus fooling the allied pilot into thinking they were still milling about at cruise settings ;)

Oh for gods sake man , your post and many others you wrote was arrogant and pigheaded and your not alone there are many others here just like you that just want to slam any opinion that is not there own you will not get away with it with me, if you can behave in a mature way then we will get along just fine ,if not...... its up to you.
I put the vids up to show that SOUND realisim can be gotten close to even with the limited Prs of il2 ,its not advertising , as these sounds are not on release and nither myself nor Tiger33 need to advertise anything.

Ps, you spelt jafa wrong there is only one -F-

Jafa's sounds aren't far off, if we allow for the way the sound is recorded in this clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCrKD...eature=related

JAMESON uaooooooo bellissimo your video i have sensation stay in copitch of p40.
the sound is realy is good but i send a rumor of a BEEEEEB BEEB.
BUT WW2 airplane have a CLACSON? beeeeb beeb? Klaxon?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFDKlbe-51U


Nice vid, awfull flyby sounds.

Imo, if im allowed to have one that is.

I sec the sounds is ok the next it sounds like a syntheziser is doing the job, sounds very od in my ears.

Sorry I spelled your name wrong Jafa. No slight was meant.

As the biggest hold up to "better" sounds in official releases is really copyright issues, could you tell us where your sounds come from?

Are you spending tens of thousands of dollars to record actual aircraft?

That is pretty consistent with what I have found when comparing the mod sounds to youtube videos (not scientific, I know). I continue to be amazed. Great work by the modders!

That is only an issue if he uses a direct rip of the sounds from videos/audio files not of his making. If he uses sound synthesis software to approximate the sounds in the video then there should be no copyright issue. How do you do it, Jafa?

Cheers,

Fafnir_6

No, even that is not an issue , it only becomes one when you are trying to turn a profit directly from the first party s material without there consent.
As for my source I will tell you this , ive worked in aviation for 20 years I fly I jump I fix, my father was also involved as well so I guess you could add another 20 on to that, this probably accounts for 60 % of what I use the rest is more often than not offered but sometimes as with the napier sabre you must use archive material and guess work as there are at this time none still running , though I hope that Kermit will put this to right in the near future.
Now its my turn , how important is realistic sound to you ?, to me it is 51 % of the immersion, do you want to see the same original sounds released with SOW as were first released with il2...?

Thank you.

Last question first. I doubt that any of us want unrealistic sounds, but you must remember that Oleg's company is indeed a for profit business, so any intellectual property, including sounds, have to have proper attribution and be free of copyright issues or they simply cannot be used. We don't need another Northrop-Grumman fiasco.

So, your sound files are recordings you have made personally?

Indeed, which software suite did you use to make the sounds? Inquiring minds wish to know (there is a 426 Hemi exhaust note needed for my Roadrunner in Need for Speed :)).

Cheers,

Fafnir_6