[QUOTE=Anders_And;457626]My system has run CLoD like butter from day one, but thanks for your concern. I have never had a problem with stutters, crashes, etc. My issues have always been the lack of features, content, stupid AI, bad sounds or no sounds, vibrating shadows, popping up scenery; 60 second gun bursts from AI, no QMB like IL2, and on and on and on.

The problem is not COD, the problem is the game engine. Changing the name of the sim, map, and aircraft isn't going to make anything better. They are not going to build a new game engine, as that would take years. If they were building a new game engine they certainly wouldn't be allocating resources to patch the existing game engine. They must fix the existing game engine. No one is going to buy a Sequel or MMO unless the game engine is fixed. A fixed game engine means a fixed COD, and a Sequel/MMO that they will be able to sell. This latest patch is critical, if they can't stabilize and fix the performance for average computers there will be no point in fixing all the other issues. This is probably one of the reasons they delayed the announcement until they're sure the performance issues are fixed, and they can move forward.

I don't normally engage in these threads, but I think you are spot on. Also, if BoM is released with the tools for making user-made content that we saw in development shots, then fixing things like the BoB map may simply be outsourced to the community, whom I think will do that splendidly.

I am actually very excited about BoM, and I am fairly sure the dev team do not have the option to deliver a bad product if they want to keep their company afloat.

I still have a little hope that 1C will manage to make accurate and historical flight model and performance of CLoD planes.

You are not alone ;)

...from WW2 Tweets from 1940 ‏@RealTimeWWII, posted yesterday: https://twitter.com/realtimewwii

A month of daily air battles is scarring even surviving UK pilots; their reaction times are down by 1/5th of a second, lethal in combat.

RAF pilots, exhausted, on edge & uncertain of survival, try to forget the war with alcohol: "When we're not in the air, we're plastered."

1 RAF pilot, hearing Churchill's comment "Never was so much owed by so many to so few", jokes: "He must be thinking of our mess bills."

MAC

@B6

Would it help to send the dump-files from steam for debugging?

Don't get me wrong here. I'm not talking about the dump-files from "...\Documents\1C SoftClub\il-2 sturmovik cliffs of dover\cppcrash\".

I mean the dump-files from "...\steam\dumps\", like "assert_launcher.exe_20120831210412_1.dmp".

BS have you any news?

BlackSix,

Could you please answer my question with regards to Sli/Crossfire support. Luthier stated way back in April 2011 that it was their next big priority, that was 17 months ago. What is happening with this. This is the reply that I see: -


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BlackSix
So, you really want to talk to each other and of course this is the unique thread on the forum where you can do this. Ok, no problem. The thread is unstuck and opened.

I have no time to clean the flame and offtopic every day and try to find the rare questions.
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Don't think that this sort of reply is very helpful with questions that are genuine and are asked in good faith.

Hmmm.........unstickied.

Good job fellas.

Think it has more to do with the fact that we already got all the answer/s we are going to get, regardless of question, in the past and in the furure. Cant say, not allowed, no plans, maby, wait for announcement..well you get the picture.


No need to stickie it when the "communication" is all done.

Actually Anders if you had read anything on this thread before pissing off B6 you would have seen that some of the questions were getting good answers.

The real shame being hundreds were reading the words from B6, but only a few has changed that for now.

Anders please! Bara håll käften!
Viking

I will buy BoM, despite MG's poor show from the latest year and a half following IL2CoD's release, not because I have faith in them (that's already lost by now too) but because I love WW2 combat flight sim, and until they'll get out of the door with their feet firsts (as a business), whatever little improvements they can add to the game will benefit us all. And I think most of us will do the same.

And I really, really wish them to pull out their head from the closet and make the code GPL or at least pick up some users from this community who want to volunteer to work on some parts of their code: they can easily deal with non-render-engine related stuff (as AI, GUI, bugs, etc.).

Could you kindly direct me to those? All I've ever read is "No", "Low Priority" (which means 'not in all eternity') "not at the moment", "not before the sequel in order to suckle out a new buck". The one "Yes" I've read was for the patchnotes on the current patch (!) .

Maybe I really need to re-visit my "there is no patch" conspiracy theory. There are statements like "Radio communication is fully implemented" (this and similar things were actually brought up multiple times) "FMs fixed" and it turns out, like all the time, to be a blatant lie. Instead, people screw around with some magical fps-gain or -loss (depending randomly on who you ask) while my first comment is always :"looks like before".
Throw in some potemkin's villages like the "100oct" models (just Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V, while letting a cat hopping across keyboard on the plane performance settings screen) here and there and you're set to go for a long time so you can actually work on your next cash-cow.

I've not really seen much change except engine sounds and new tracers since release, really. And I'm soooo fkin' tired of waiting it out...


P.S.: I hope someone records the whole CoD-situation from the beginning. This needs to be documented as the worst case of fumbling and crookery that has ever happened in the whole IT industry - and that has to be saved for the future. I wonder why no journalist of some gaming newspaper hasn't picked up on that, yet (most reported the game as just broken at release and wanted to do a re-vised test some time in the future). I doubt that they would find such kind words as I do...

The situation *has* been recorded by many of us from the beginning, in fact since way before the beginning. And the conclusions do not make for happy viewing, more like a salutory lesson in how not to do things. The problem as I see it, has not been the drawing of conclusions (so much is blatant), but the consistent denial at so many different levels - dev/fans/forums*. Much is loyalty/happy memories/wishful thinking/cockpit-gazing. But there is no game, no BOB, not even a ghost of single player, never mind weather, that stuff in the sky that effects fighting etc....

At the end of many, many years, you have a partly finished sandbox. And that is all anyone is going to get out of Clod, at best. The rest is just how much you can be bothered to put into it. Some people like a challenge.

And now that denial is no longer possible (just too absurd) then the sibling game of 'if this is done, then that might just...' or the existence of the franchise depends on continued support'..or 'burn/bait the critics' take sover, out of sheer frustration and last gasps.

There just isn't much reality to be had. And that in itself is a huge, ongoing problem. *Still*...after all these years!

Probably enough to get me banned again. Still, I had a couple of days this time.

Ben

*meaning some Mods

+1 Sad times :(


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cu7QvOQKcKk

Just because YOU can't get it to run doesn't mean there is no game... it just means YOU can't get it to run.

+1

For a none existing game i've many fun with it :grin:

I can get it to run. And I say there is no game, too. Be objective for JUST! ONE! MINUTE! for ** sake! Maybe you'll realize something then...

+1 to that other guy there.

My apologies that my pc is able to run the game well enough to play it on ATAG, I will try and remember next time that even though I can play the game at a constant 60fps and can go bomb targets with another three pilots in blenhiems with a cover from a spit or two that I am not allowed to enjoy it because a few twittering **** on this forum don't want me too.

Well I am not sorry that I can have fun in the game, nor am I sorry that I am not such a pessimistic turd like you...

Anders bare fortsæt, alle behøver ikke at være präktig !

Mj

When will you realise it is nothign to do with running the game, or CTDs (though these do affect many people)...it is what you have got *when* *it* *is* *running*.

It is not much a BoB game is it, really? And all thos emissing features - where did they go?

No amount of horse-power or low-level IO monitoring or Regedit or hex editing is going to change the fact that the core runtimes and graphics kernel (never mind associated caching, paging, DLL and general library calls) seem less than efficient, or coded to a particularly modern standard (even allowing for hardware abstraction layers etc). To say nothign of who coded them, and who is now coding/revising them.

*Then* add-in the fact you might well have a situation where new coders are being asked to unravel legacy code, while supplying new libraries and calls.

What you have there, my son, is quite possibly an unholy mess.

Stop fixating on your ability to run it and consider the wider question: is it well done to a decent standard? And is there a game there? Is there much BoB? And what do the patches and B6's prouncements taken together tell you?

Perhaps a fair few people are having the time of their life with this game. Good for them. But this isn;t about them. It's about the game as a whole, much of which is still missing, and all the indications are it will stay missing.
Once you acknowledge that simple reality, it actually makes you less tenacious and/or bitter and able to move on and look at things clearly.

Fogging up with obstinacy seems a waste of time to me. Each to their own.

Krupi you need to get over it and admit there are problems with CLOD and stop lying to yourself.

Bra, så kan du dra åt helvete!!

+1

Poor Krupi..

On the bright side, maybe now he can relate to what guys like me have had to deal with over the past year with guys like you?

For example

No where did Krupi say the game is without fault.. That is just the game guys like you try to play with anyone who has anything postive to say about the game.. You and yours are so transparent

But just because Krupi is easily pleased he cant acept the fact that some people require abit more depth in a sim. :!:

You can try and justify this in your mind anyway you see fit

No skin off my back

But that does not change the FACT that your little game of trying to discredit anyone who has anything postive to say about the game

As in this case you lying about Krupi saying there are no issues with the game..

Says alot about how weak you and yours argument is that you have to resort to such tatics

+1

I take it that you are single...

But that does not change the FACT that your little game of trying to discredit anyone who has anything negative to say about the game.

Ah, here is another form of the same discredit tatic..

As noted, they know how weak thier arguments are.. So they know they can not discuss the merits of thier arguments in an open forum.. Just too easy for others to point out how weak thier arguments are..

So they have to resort to lying about what others say, as in Marly's case, or they have to resort to attacking others personally, as in Anders case.

So transparent

Nice try..

But no sale!

Note, I did not have to resort to lying about what you said..

All I had to do was quote what you said..

Big difference

Hahaha!

Now relax and go and get urself a woman!

In all honesty Krupi, it takes more than 2-3 populated, for reasons i think is firmly established by now, online servers and a single player on crutches to be called "A game". I think you know what he means with "there is no game". Being able to run it isnt enough by a long shot.