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Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES (Post 419035)

That is what I got.. The saitek combat rudder soemthing or other.. the pricy ones! I was suprised to seem them not fully letting go.. Ill have to try and filter that out

Press R control+Enter and it brings up a screen showing control inputs, you will get an idea of what brake forces you are applying.

Just finished some online DF

PROs.. best 'system' simulated P51 combat flight simulator todate
CONs.. Something that has been a downfall of all DCS sims since the orginal LockOn

warping

And I am just not talking about the warping you will see when airborn.. but planes warping around on the tarmak!

Thus I don't think 1C has anything to worry about wrt DCS taking 1st place in the WWII market.. In that if DCS has not fixxed that major problem in the past 10 years, they are not likly to fix it any time soon

As for the FM.. it's beta so I wont rip it too bad.. but I will say this, I hope they 'fix' it soon!

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Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES (Post 419140)

I can imagine the DM being a bit shyte as well?

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Originally Posted by Ze-Jamz (Post 419147)

I can imagine the DM being a bit shyte as well?

I have allways shy away from commenting on the 'realism' of a DM

Why?

Well because there is no real way to test it and thus no way to prove it

For example.. Can you find me the test report that shows the top speed of a P51 with three 20mm holes in the right wing, that are 13" back from the leading edge and 1 ft away from the wing tip in a grouping patern hole of 1.4 ft with an entrance angle of 60 degrees and and exit angle of 30 for two shells and 33 for one shell

See what I mean?

In short all comments on DMs ar opinion based, based on a summary of pilot reports.. Problem is people tend to forget these pilot reports are those pilots that made it back from combat to write the report! ;)

About the only thing that can be tested for are structural limits.. You know at top speed the wings tend to come off types of tests

Long story short, we have to trust the sim maker knows what he is doing when he simulates the DM

from what I understand the company has a P51 of their own to work with.

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Originally Posted by 1.JaVA_Sharp (Post 419173)

from what I understand the company has a P51 of their own to work with.

They have all the aircraft of the fighter collection to work with.

That is cool..

I wonder if they would let me to shoot the 20mm cannon at the wing of thier P51 to see how the well real world damage matches thier DM simulation! ;)

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ACES ... I'm intruged by your comments about the DCS FM. What did you find should be fixed and what are you comparing it too?

I'm not having a dig or anything, I'm just curious is all.