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EJGr.Ost_Caspar 05-23-2013 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alien (Post 503306)
Something related to shared kills just came to my mind - the Luftwaffe (and perhaps some other countries) did not have shared kills! Would it be possible to apply them just for the air forces that actually used them?

We have included an option for 'historical kill share' - if enabled, germans and other, that didn't, will not share.

El Supremo 05-23-2013 11:22 PM

Hey Caspar,

wie schaut's aus, kann man bereits absehen wann es soweit ist? Bestimmt keine zwei Wochen mehr, oder?

Hey Caspar,

can you give us an estimate for the release of the patch? It surely won't take two weeks anymore, right?

Cheers / Grüsse

El Supremo

IceFire 05-23-2013 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Supremo (Post 503626)
Hey Caspar,

wie schaut's aus, kann man bereits absehen wann es soweit ist? Bestimmt keine zwei Wochen mehr, oder?

Hey Caspar,

can you give us an estimate for the release of the patch? It surely won't take two weeks anymore, right?

Cheers / Grüsse

El Supremo

You know the 'two weeks' thing is an old IL-2 community joke? It's been going for years... probably won't ever die.

Treetop64 05-24-2013 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IceFire (Post 503627)
You know the 'two weeks' thing is an old IL-2 community joke? It's been going for years... probably won't ever die.

...be sure.

El Supremo 05-24-2013 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IceFire (Post 503627)
You know the 'two weeks' thing is an old IL-2 community joke? It's been going for years... probably won't ever die.

Well, as a matter of fact . . . I do :cool:

EJGr.Ost_Caspar 05-24-2013 01:24 PM

Tja, also wir sind kurz davor, einen nächsten Release-Kandidaten zu erstellen, der dann noch getestet werden muß. Der letzte RC hat die Erwartungen nicht erfüllt. Ich bin aber zuversichtlich, daß es keine Showstopper mehr gibt. 'nen Zeitpunkt möchte ich aber nicht nennen. Am Ende stimmt das mal mit den 'zwei Wochen' und dann ist der schöne Scherz dahin. :)

Well, we are shortly before compiling a next release candidate, which has then to be tested first. The last one didn't fulfill the expectations. But I am pretty sure, that there are no showstoppers left. I won't name a release date though. Maybe it could fit with 'two weeks' and then that great joke would completely be in vain. :)

sniperton 05-24-2013 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EJGr.Ost_Caspar (Post 503656)
Tja, also wir sind kurz davor, einen nächsten Release-Kandidaten zu erstellen, der dann noch getestet werden muß. Der letzte RC hat die Erwartungen nicht erfüllt. Ich bin aber zuversichtlich, daß es keine Showstopper mehr gibt. 'nen Zeitpunkt möchte ich aber nicht nennen. Am Ende stimmt das mal mit den 'zwei Wochen' und dann ist der schöne Scherz dahin. :)

Fabelhaft :) (in all den Sinnen des Wortes, um beim schönen Scherz zu bleiben) :lol:

~BeoWolf~ 05-25-2013 01:28 AM

the term "Two Weeks" is no good unless you put the "Be Sure" on the end of it.

In the USN, if you heard someone telling you a "Sea Story" it was prolly a lie unless is was preceded by "This is a no Shitter".............

Two Weeks...... be sure.....

BeoWolf

Treetop64 05-25-2013 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~BeoWolf~ (Post 503678)
the term "Two Weeks" is no good unless you put the "Be Sure" on the end of it.

In the USN, if you heard someone telling you a "Sea Story" it was prolly a lie unless is was preceded by "This is a no Shitter".............

Two Weeks...... be sure.....

BeoWolf

...no *kidding*.

EJGr.Ost_Caspar 05-25-2013 03:50 PM

You is wrong. Be sure.

Storebror 05-26-2013 08:21 AM

Kishon would say: After the holidays. Be sure.

Best regards - Mike

Snake 05-26-2013 07:03 PM

It will be for sure this year! :)
Christmas?! :D

sniperton 05-27-2013 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Storebror (Post 503799)
Kishon would say: After the holidays. Be sure.

Anyone remembers when a child? The feel before christmas gifts are finally presented? A bit of nostalgia, I know, but now I remember. Thanks for that for TD. (Just shoot me, chaps, for sure) :rolleyes::-P

PilotError 05-27-2013 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snake (Post 503844)
It will be for sure this year! :)
Christmas?! :D

Are you sure you are sure ? :)

Storebror 05-27-2013 12:47 PM

Actually "after the holidays" according to Kishon has a slightly different meaning than "after the holidays" ;)

Best regards - Mike

sniperton 05-27-2013 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Storebror (Post 503880)
Actually "after the holidays" according to Kishon has a slightly different meaning than "after the holidays" ;)

I'm only sure that I'm not sure whether I can be sure as to the meaning of 'after the holidays'. Anyway, cheers to all, and back to work! :grin:

nic727 05-28-2013 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EJGr.Ost_Caspar (Post 503656)
Tja, also wir sind kurz davor, einen nächsten Release-Kandidaten zu erstellen, der dann noch getestet werden muß. Der letzte RC hat die Erwartungen nicht erfüllt. Ich bin aber zuversichtlich, daß es keine Showstopper mehr gibt. 'nen Zeitpunkt möchte ich aber nicht nennen. Am Ende stimmt das mal mit den 'zwei Wochen' und dann ist der schöne Scherz dahin. :)

Well, we are shortly before compiling a next release candidate, which has then to be tested first. The last one didn't fulfill the expectations. But I am pretty sure, that there are no showstoppers left. I won't name a release date though. Maybe it could fit with 'two weeks' and then that great joke would completely be in vain. :)

Can't wait :-P

beazil 05-28-2013 12:34 AM

*pads miniscule post count and watches thread hopefully*

Tinpanzer87 05-28-2013 01:12 AM

Hope they using all this time to add an extra plane or 2.

Cloyd 05-28-2013 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beazil (Post 503910)
*pads miniscule post count and watches thread hopefully*

Forum posts are like golf putts...the fewer, the better. ;-)

Cloyd

Pursuivant 05-28-2013 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tinpanzer87 (Post 503911)
Hope they using all this time to add an extra plane or 2.

I'm sure it's nothing so fun.

At this point, it's probably {stomp bugs, compile code, run code, bang head on desk, repeat}

Have some sympathy for TD, they probably want this patch released as much as we do!

MicroWave 05-28-2013 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pursuivant (Post 503914)
I'm sure it's nothing so fun.

At this point, it's probably {stomp bugs, compile code, run code, bang head on desk, repeat}

Have some sympathy for TD, they probably want this patch released as much as we do!

Yes, we do.

GROHOT 05-28-2013 06:14 PM

Dear MicroWave, please give for us 2 new screenshot, and we can wait next two week:-)

Alien 05-28-2013 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GROHOT (Post 503945)
Dear MicroWave, please give for us 2 new screenshot, and we can wait next two week:-)

+1, but some JUICY ones please ;D

robday 05-28-2013 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GROHOT (Post 503945)
Dear MicroWave, please give for us 2 new screenshot, and we can wait next two week:-)

TD are probably too busy getting the patch ready for release. It's not like they are getting paid for their work, they also have a life beyond IL2.
Have patience. it'll be worth it!

Viikate 05-29-2013 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robday (Post 503951)
It's not like they are getting paid for their work, they also have a life beyond IL2.

Indeed. When my son was born 6 months ago, this unpaid DT hobby got the lowest priority in my life.

Luno13 05-29-2013 08:21 PM

Congratulations! :)

EJGr.Ost_Caspar 05-29-2013 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viikate (Post 503981)
Indeed. When my son was born 6 months ago, this unpaid DT hobby got the lowest priority in my life.

Make a better world for him... go on with your hobby!!! :D

fruitbat 05-29-2013 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EJGr.Ost_Caspar (Post 504004)
Make a better world for him... go on with your hobby!!! :D

lol!

Congrats Viikate!

ElAurens 05-29-2013 11:46 PM

Congratulations sir.

Family first, it's a golden rule.

nic727 05-29-2013 11:50 PM

Hey Daidalos Team,

Just found that on http://allaircraftsimulations.com/forum/ about HD cockpit for BF109 and it's just look amazing... Hope it will be in 4.13m for about all aircraft :)

http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/...psb7630b8b.png
http://oi44.tinypic.com/4jvlmt.jpg

ElAurens 05-29-2013 11:56 PM

I wonder how many polys that is?

:rolleyes:

jameson 05-30-2013 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElAurens (Post 504013)
I wonder how many polys that is?

:rolleyes:

The Hawk 75 will have to go to fit it in the next patch, :(

CWMV 05-30-2013 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElAurens (Post 504013)
I wonder how many polys that is?

:rolleyes:

The same as the stock cockpits.
This is just a repaint of the (absolutely god awful horrendous) stock pit by Ice Eagle.

_1SMV_Gitano 05-30-2013 08:37 AM

From the new 4.12 release candidate, hopefully the last one...

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/d...psbce1862c.jpg

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/d...ps16968b1f.jpg

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/d...psa23923bb.jpg

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/d...ps99475491.jpg

Pursuivant 05-30-2013 09:24 AM

Looks like more Beaufort appreciation screenshots in the first one, although maybe there's something else I'm missing.

Second one might be slightly altered model for the A6M2.

Third one is Mohawk I with British ordinance. Nice addition.

Fourth is another teaser of the Hawk 75 cockpit and reticle brightness modification. It's too dark to tell if it's the Finnish 'pit or some other nationality.

All very nice. Thanks for the teasers!

_1SMV_Gitano 05-30-2013 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pursuivant (Post 504031)
Looks like more Beaufort appreciation screenshots in the first one, although maybe there's something else I'm missing.

Second one might be slightly altered model for the A6M2.

Third one is Mohawk I with British ordinance. Nice addition.

Fourth is another teaser of the Hawk 75 cockpit and reticle brightness modification. It's too dark to tell if it's the Finnish 'pit or some other nationality.

All very nice. Thanks for the teasers!

1 - Yep, Beaufort Mk.II with RAAF camouflage;

2 - No, I just took the A6M since the Beaufort is not flyable;

3 - Mohawk IV with 6x40lb GP bombs;

4 - It's finnish version, the Mohawk is not flyable.

cheers

EJGr.Ost_Caspar 05-30-2013 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nic727 (Post 504012)
Hey Daidalos Team,

Just found that on http://allaircraftsimulations.com/forum/ about HD cockpit for BF109 and it's just look amazing... Hope it will be in 4.13m for about all aircraft :)

Thats some of the biggest sh..t available. Its not even really worth to comment.
I am sooo tired to see these cockpit repaint in requests again and again! So far I have not seen one Bf109 cockpit, that was even near to Il-2 standards.

Pls stop these request -we will do an own version one better day.

EDIT: No disrespect to the work and time spend into painting - some textures do really look great. If just anyone would care for a proper remodeling/remapping, using standards - it could look the very same and would be right. But noone does.

EJGr.Ost_Caspar 05-30-2013 10:41 AM

4 - Reticle brightness.

Ala13_Kokakolo 05-30-2013 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EJGr.Ost_Caspar (Post 504038)
Pls stop these request -we will do an own version one better day.

Thank you, thank you thank you.... ad infinitum.

MicroWave 05-30-2013 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EJGr.Ost_Caspar (Post 504038)
...

Pls stop these request -we will do an own version one better day.

...

And it probably won't have Goebbels family photo in it.

sniperton 05-30-2013 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MicroWave (Post 504042)
And it probably won't have Goebbels family photo in it.

:):):)

nic727 05-30-2013 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EJGr.Ost_Caspar (Post 504038)
Thats some of the biggest sh..t available. Its not even really worth to comment.
I am sooo tired to see these cockpit repaint in requests again and again! So far I have not seen one Bf109 cockpit, that was even near to Il-2 standards.

Pls stop these request -we will do an own version one better day.

EDIT: No disrespect to the work and time spend into painting - some textures do really look great. If just anyone would care for a proper remodeling/remapping, using standards - it could look the very same and would be right. But noone does.

Yes I know that it will be your own in the futur, I just said that it could be nice to have a HD cockpit :)

Spudkopf 05-31-2013 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _1SMV_Gitano (Post 504028)
From the new 4.12 release candidate, hopefully the last one..

I know I've already asked this question twice, but sadly have not had a TD response as of yet, so maybe you can answer if you have the time:

Have any of the upgraded features on the Beaufort migrated over to the whispering death aka Beaufighter and if not can this be considered for 4.13?

BTW the RAAF Beauforts look great!

EJGr.Ost_Caspar 05-31-2013 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spudkopf (Post 504079)
Have any of the upgraded features on the Beaufort migrated over to the whispering death aka Beaufighter and if not can this be considered for 4.13?

Speaking of the engine nacelles? Not yet. But its possible. However, the author of Beauforts has turned to more real life issues currently and a migration to Beaufighters is a bit on the low priority side for us anyway.

sabyyy 05-31-2013 08:31 AM

Hi,

I mostly play the Balaton map in IL2.
In UP, the hills are 'there', but in 4.11, the map is flat without hills.
Anyone knows whether this is addressed in 4.12, or this is something not depending on patches but I should address this some other way?
Apologies if this is not the correct thread for this, so a link to the correct thread would also be appreciated.

Thanks

Asheshouse 05-31-2013 09:00 AM

If I remember correctly the original Balaton map mods were by Vpmedia and included a new terrain height map (map_c) and new ground textures.

Balaton was one of the early experimental map mods where a lot of the map making "secrets" were unlocked.

Spudkopf 05-31-2013 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EJGr.Ost_Caspar (Post 504087)
Speaking of the engine nacelles? Not yet. But its possible. However, the author of Beauforts has turned to more real life issues currently and a migration to Beaufighters is a bit on the low priority side for us anyway.

Thanks for the answer, although I have to admit I'm a tad disappointed though as the Beau' has become one of my favourite rides. But thems the breaks I guess.

As a solid works trained draftsperson maybe I should look into reading the modelling bible and see what I can do to help.

IceFire 05-31-2013 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spudkopf (Post 504101)
Thanks for the answer, although I have to admit I'm a tad disappointed though as the Beau' has become one of my favourite rides. But thems the breaks I guess.

As a solid works trained draftsperson maybe I should look into reading the modelling bible and see what I can do to help.

I think the case of 3D modelling work is that the more there is the merrier! It's not easy. I've tried... :D

sabyyy 06-01-2013 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asheshouse (Post 504094)
If I remember correctly the original Balaton map mods were by Vpmedia and included a new terrain height map (map_c) and new ground textures.

Balaton was one of the early experimental map mods where a lot of the map making "secrets" were unlocked.

Great thanks! By your answer, google led me to Vpmedia's site, so now I can use the updated maps in. 4.11, and hopefully will be able to use them in 4.12 if they are not already there.

Asheshouse 06-01-2013 10:34 AM

You can only add maps if your game is modded.
If you only want to add maps then use SAS Mod Activator v4 for v4.11

Ashe

GROHOT 06-01-2013 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viikate (Post 503981)
Indeed. When my son was born 6 months ago, this unpaid DT hobby got the lowest priority in my life.

Dear Viikate, Congratulate!!!
You very happy I hope?
Family - famous!!!

GROHOT 06-01-2013 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _1SMV_Gitano (Post 504028)
From the new 4.12 release candidate, hopefully the last one...

BIG THANKS!!!
This image give me hope about patch!!!
Best regards, GROHOT!

GROHOT 06-01-2013 02:03 PM

Dear TD, Mohawk IV and other Hawk in future be flyable?
Thank!!!

IceFire 06-01-2013 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabyyy (Post 504139)
Great thanks! By your answer, google led me to Vpmedia's site, so now I can use the updated maps in. 4.11, and hopefully will be able to use them in 4.12 if they are not already there.

Ahh so it's VPMedia who I should complain to. I love the guy but wish he had modified the names too... backwards compatibility is a huge problem online and offline using older campaigns.

RegRag1977 06-01-2013 04:51 PM

Oh yeah!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EJGr.Ost_Caspar (Post 504038)

we will do an own version one better day.

Cool! You guys rock...

Thanks guys for the pictures and news, it always makes my day :)

Pershing 06-03-2013 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EJGr.Ost_Caspar (Post 503656)
Well, we are shortly before compiling a next release candidate..

Is the candidate still candidate or already not?)

Fenice_1965 06-03-2013 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IceFire (Post 504156)
Ahh so it's VPMedia who I should complain to. I love the guy but wish he had modified the names too... backwards compatibility is a huge problem online and offline using older campaigns.

I agree 1001% Icefire. There are a lot of issues related to the name confusion between "stock maps" and "modded stock maps", with no effective rewards.

IceFire 06-08-2013 01:03 AM

Some photos that I'm able to share with everyone from 4.12. The final 4.12 patch is closer and closer but until then I'll try and share some fun stuff.

http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/...ps72957eb7.jpg

http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/...pscd2adeac.jpg

http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/...ps9ef94235.jpg

http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/...psc69def3f.jpg

IceFire 06-08-2013 01:05 AM

And a bunch more...

http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/...pse4f8baa7.jpg

http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/...psa91ab037.jpg

http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4bdee21c.jpg

http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/...ps02332557.jpg

http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/...ps163bc064.jpg

IceFire 06-08-2013 01:06 AM

And finally...


http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/...ps10e2d007.jpg

http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/...psf4e2fbd0.jpg

http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/...psf418833b.jpg

http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/...psd9b80d39.jpg

http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/...ps49ddd5f5.jpg

http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/...ps17147c47.jpg

http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/...psefd02187.jpg

nic727 06-08-2013 01:50 AM

What??? It's released? Where?

ARRRGGGGG!!!!!

lol.

Will it be available toomorow?

IceFire 06-08-2013 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nic727 (Post 504407)
What??? It's released? Where?

ARRRGGGGG!!!!!

lol.

Will it be available toomorow?

No it's not released. Work continues. These are some screen shots from a couple of the RC's that I spent some time taking for your enjoyment.

CWMV 06-08-2013 06:34 AM

Ah so the landing gear damage mod has been incorporated in some form eh?

GROHOT 06-08-2013 07:17 AM

Dear IceFire, thats picture awesome!!!
http://avivas.ru/photo_view/74945.html - its my look for pict...

Snake 06-08-2013 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IceFire (Post 504411)
No it's not released. Work continues. These are some screen shots from a couple of the RC's that I spent some time taking for your enjoyment.

Work continues on what? I thought it's.....done! :confused:

Derda508 06-08-2013 09:45 AM

Thanks a lot IceFire.
The pics look great!

_1SMV_Gitano 06-08-2013 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snake (Post 504427)
Work continues on what? I thought it's.....done! :confused:

The work on bug-hunting/fixing. The 3rd RC was expected to have no critical bugs but at least one was found. We all hope to find no more such bugs and release the patch!

EDIT: about landing gear damage: such feature was not taken from mods.

anikollag 06-08-2013 11:44 AM

Thanks for screen shoots. Very nice :grin:)
Juste a simple question? Why not to take the mod for landing gear damage? Compatibility?

shelby 06-08-2013 12:45 PM

can we have a screen shot of the new p-40?

IceFire 06-08-2013 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snake (Post 504427)
Work continues on what? I thought it's.....done! :confused:

Once you have content complete then you start release candidate testing and that can take a while... Especially when critical bugs pop up. At least half the battle is making sure that the patch gets released with no serious bugs.

Tuphlandng 06-08-2013 05:45 PM

I know many wont agree But I say take your time Get it as close to perfect as you can
I would rather have a decent patch then one that that has a gag of bugs

As always Your doing an Awesome job Keep it up

And Thanks again

SPITACE 06-08-2013 07:56 PM

How many gb/mb will 4.12 be when it is out?? :confused:

MicroWave 06-08-2013 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPITACE (Post 504454)
How many gb/mb will 4.12 be when it is out?? :confused:

Not much. About 250 MB.

SPITACE 06-08-2013 08:11 PM

That's good :-P

Monty_Thrud 06-08-2013 10:11 PM

Anychance of two weeks from today...? :D

MicroWave 06-08-2013 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monty_Thrud (Post 504460)
Anychance of two weeks from today...? :D

Be sure.

Borsch 06-08-2013 11:15 PM

I really wish old fire and smoke effects will be selctable in config or something. I really do not like the "sausage" smoke and overall Oleg's effects just fit the picture much-much better imho.

IceFire 06-08-2013 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Borsch (Post 504464)
I really wish old fire and smoke effects will be selctable in config or something. I really do not like the "sausage" smoke and overall Oleg's effects just fit the picture much-much better imho.

I suspect that may be very difficult to have both sets... Not sure what you mean by "sausage" effect tho. In motion the new effects are really spectacular. Well worth it.

Fenice_1965 06-09-2013 12:06 AM

What about attempts to upgrade FBDJ software to fit 4.12 ?

Borsch 06-09-2013 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IceFire (Post 504405)

This is what I meant by "sausage" (pipe-cleaner etc) - smoke trail does not widen but remains constant diameter.
I'll reserve my final judgements until I see them in motion, but if the effects can not be disabled... oh well, I'll just need to get used to them/ go back to 4.11/install a mod with original effects or plutonium.

KG26_Alpha 06-09-2013 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fenice_1965 (Post 504468)
What about attempts to upgrade FBDJ software to fit 4.12 ?

And who is going to make the MySql PhP Apache server tutorials ?

If they made it click n host with online server stats without learning installing all the above then +1

But I think it will remain as it is with v4.1x fitting FBDj not the other way around.

:)










.

IceFire 06-10-2013 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Borsch (Post 504499)
This is what I meant by "sausage" (pipe-cleaner etc) - smoke trail does not widen but remains constant diameter.
I'll reserve my final judgements until I see them in motion, but if the effects can not be disabled... oh well, I'll just need to get used to them/ go back to 4.11/install a mod with original effects or plutonium.

Thanks for explaining... I believe there is a subtle widening for the effect while it fades... overall I think it looks quite stunning. Especially combined with some of the new fire and flame effects.

Borsch 06-10-2013 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IceFire (Post 504501)
Thanks for explaining... I believe there is a subtle widening for the effect while it fades... overall I think it looks quite stunning. Especially combined with some of the new fire and flame effects.

Look forward to seeing them! :)

Fenice_1965 06-10-2013 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha (Post 504500)
And who is going to make the MySql PhP Apache server tutorials ?

If they made it click n host with online server stats without learning installing all the above then +1

But I think it will remain as it is with v4.1x fitting FBDj not the other way around.

:)










.

This is an idea for future releases: a click and host interface to be integrated with next releases of ded server.
Btw I heard that some was already thinking to work on FBDJ to adapt it to 4.12, I hoped things were going on.
I suppose it can be quite simple if people who had the idea are not left alone to update it and find a bit of help in the community.
~S~

RegRag1977 06-10-2013 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuphlandng (Post 504450)
I know many wont agree But I say take your time Get it as close to perfect as you can
I would rather have a decent patch then one that that has a gag of bugs

As always Your doing an Awesome job Keep it up

And Thanks again

Yes, absolutely!

When the patch comes out and there is no bug, then this will be an impressive achievement for a non professional team.

So i second that: "take your time Get it as close to perfect as you can "

You guys rock and you know it.

Spinnetti 06-11-2013 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CWMV (Post 504416)
Ah so the landing gear damage mod has been incorporated in some form eh?


looks great! - I know I've irritated people on the mod sites with this, but the FW had an all electric landing gear (one of, if not the first) - unless the motor got hit it wouldn't flop open like hydro systems do with pressure loss... few seem to want to model this correctly

Treetop64 06-11-2013 03:20 AM

The SB alone is worth calling in sick for.
When 4.12 is released, I will be defending the Glorious City of Leningrad in my beautiful SB-2, all while listening to Shostakovich's 7th Symphony!

OohRAAAHHH!!!

CWMV 06-11-2013 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Spinnetti (Post 504543)
looks great! - I know I've irritated people on the mod sites with this, but the FW had an all electric landing gear (one of, if not the first) - unless the motor got hit it wouldn't flop open like hydro systems do with pressure loss... few seem to want to model this correctly

:rolleyes:
At same mod site, and in same mod thread, I posted this video of an Anton getting shot up, and showing the gear dropping.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCdWYttR7s8

I don't recall you responding there but please, just stop.

Treetop64 06-11-2013 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Spinnetti (Post 504543)
looks great! - I know I've irritated people on the mod sites with this, but the FW had an all electric landing gear (one of, if not the first) - unless the motor got hit it wouldn't flop open like hydro systems do with pressure loss... few seem to want to model this correctly

Not only damage to the motors, but damage to the uplocks and any of the joints could cause them to drop as well. Just because the gear actuation was electric doesn't mean they were impervious to damage. Electrical systems are beneficial because they save weight and complexity, not because they are indestructible.

Spudkopf 06-11-2013 01:32 PM

To me the footage is quite inconclusive in regards to determining if the gear dropping is due to damage or as a deliberate act by the pilot (like a sign of surrender), the fact that the pilot does not seem to take any evasive action at all just raises far too many questions as to the true circumstances of whats actually happening here. Further you can only see the starboard wing at the moment the gear begins to drop so it is also unclear what is happening on the port wing.

I'm not in any way disputing the possibility or non-possibility of a gear failure drop and do not have an opinion either way, but I do have to question the validity of the video evidence presented.

ElAurens 06-11-2013 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Spudkopf (Post 504564)
a deliberate act by the pilot (like a sign of surrender),


Um, that was not a clip from a video game. It's war, no real combat pilot would take the gear comming down to have any meaning other than system failure due to damage.

EJGr.Ost_Caspar 06-11-2013 08:08 PM

I've once seen a different vid, showing a hit Fw190 extending its one gear. Dunno where to find though.

Treetop64 06-11-2013 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Spudkopf (Post 504564)
...a deliberate act by the pilot (like a sign of surrender)...

...In a naive, fairy tale world.

In the video, it is the real world, in a real war. The pilot doing the shooting doesn't have time to assume that the gear dropping is a sign of surrender. His job is to destroy the aircraft, and he sees signs of that occurring.

What if he thought "Oh, his gear is dropping. That means he surrenders. I'll leave him be now.", only to end up being shot at by the guy he just left alone after he had a change of heart. Kinda silly.

On the other hand, fighter vs. bomber situations over western Europe could sometimes play out differently, as there have been documented cases fighter pilots escorting badly damaged enemy bombers home, though that occurred very seldom.

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Originally Posted by Spudkopf (Post 504564)
...the fact that the pilot does not seem to take any evasive action at all just raises far too many questions as to the true circumstances of whats actually happening here.

Yes, it does raise questions. The pilot could already be wounded and unable to maneuver. He could have panicked and "froze". Maybe it's a novice pilot and he has no idea what to do. Maybe he's just given up to the apparently inevitable.

However, what is obvious is that a pilot in his aircraft is being shot down. No reason to imply that something else is going on here. It's war, and it's hell.

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Originally Posted by Spudkopf (Post 504564)
Further you can only see the starboard wing at the moment the gear begins to drop so it is also unclear what is happening on the port wing.

So, what?

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Originally Posted by Spudkopf (Post 504564)
I'm not in any way disputing the possibility or non-possibility of a gear failure drop and do not have an opinion either way, but I do have to question the validity of the video evidence presented.

Well, you're certainly free to do so. No real reason to bring the video footage to the fringes of conspiracy theory, however. It's fairly straight-forward.

Spudkopf 06-11-2013 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ElAurens (Post 504578)
Um, that was not a clip from a video game. It's war, no real combat pilot would take the gear comming down to have any meaning other than system failure due to damage.

No need to treat me like I'm some three year old Hollywood inspired moron........I'll admit the surrender thing is probably fantasy and a wrong call, but there are numerous documented accounts of the dropping of gear including by mistake.

That aside my point is that as evidence, this clip on its own is next to useless without some knowledge as to the circumstances in which it was taken so unless there is an after action report or other data available or unless you are an expert in such things, then the only two people who really knew what happened in that clip are the pilots.

Sorry to be so negative.

Again I have no issues with the possibility that the gear could drop on the Fw-190 as a result of battle damage, just the assumptions made about this particular clip.

DuxCorvan 06-11-2013 11:24 PM

Maybe... he realized he was near the ground and released the gear for a desperate landing (stupid, but who knows what we'd do in a panic)... Too many assumptions, we really don't know what was happening in there.

Cloyd 06-12-2013 12:58 AM

It's time for the patch when respected, long time members of this community are sniping at each other about stupid sh!t. GIVE US A PATCH TO WHINE ABOUT!!!

;-)

Cloyd

Spinnetti 06-12-2013 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by CWMV (Post 504546)
:rolleyes:
At same mod site, and in same mod thread, I posted this video of an Anton getting shot up, and showing the gear dropping.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCdWYttR7s8

I don't recall you responding there but please, just stop.

So you've taken it upon yourself to curate the internet now? I have owned a replica FW190, and studied the systems extensively. My particular interest is in landing gear design and I make working (flyable) miniature replica gear also. I have a good working understanding of both electrical and hydraulic systems, text books on gear design etc, and your comments mean nothing to me, nor does your video prove any poorly reasoned explanation you may have. If the FW system to a catastrophic hit in the gear retract motor it would drop like a rock, not motor down. Your video proves nothing other than that that gear was lowering under power. The system uses a highly geared motor that will not drop down with or without the gear uplock being functional. At worst it would just sag an inch or so taking up any gear lash in the mechanism. This is quite unlike virtually any other WWII aircraft, and it would be neat to see it modeled in accordance to the actual function. You are welcome to disagree, but it doesn't make your comments valid, nor does it invalidate my desire to see this unique function modeled.

felix_the_fat 06-12-2013 09:50 AM

regarding possible reasons for gear drops:
Johnnie Johnson ["Wing Leader" Penguin edn 1959 p301] wrote this about some 190s in the act of surrendering to some Spitfires:
"The Huns waggled their wings, dropped their undercarriages, and generally behaved in a nervous manner..."

As he described it, this happened in the last few days of the war.

majorfailure 06-12-2013 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by CWMV (Post 504546)
:rolleyes:
At same mod site, and in same mod thread, I posted this video of an Anton getting shot up, and showing the gear dropping.
I don't recall you responding there but please, just stop.

I don't think the gear drops due to damage - I think the Fw190 pilot is on a landing approach. Would explain the lack of reaction to beeing fired upon.

And on the ground in the distance, ther are some white specs that COULD be parked planes. They could be anything else that is light coloured and of roughly 10-50m size though (BIG white elephants)...

And the speeds the planes have seem to be slow, based on the wobbling both planes do.
And if the video speed is realtime, then they seem to travel slow, but without knowing for sure and by "eyeball measure" that's rather guesswork.


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