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LoBiSoMeM 08-29-2012 05:56 PM

Just fix this bugged and unfinished engine and call this the way 1C want.

Simples as that.

SiThSpAwN 08-29-2012 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandstone (Post 457538)
I think the reputation of CloD is now so poisonous that it would be better for 1C to put as much distance between BoM and CloD as possible. A simple statement that CloD is finished would probably be for the best, accompanied by a radically different branding for BoM. The current state of play is not doing 1C's reputation any good at all and a clean break would at least give them a chance to put it behind them as a noble failure and move on to something more worthwhile. A clean break might also give them the chance to make any necessary personnel changes.


If they were going to go with a whole new game engine then sure, but if they are going to use the core of CloD on a sequel it would be IMHO irresponsible to fix things in the sequel and not patch CloD as well, even if its after the release of the sequel, now I am not talking about playability issues, those MUST be fixed before the sequel, but things like net code, additions like weather... they should all be added to CloD if they are made to work in the sequel as well... abandoning CloD and pretending it doesnt exist would only leave the devs with a very deep scar that would follow them for years to come...

Of course now we drift off topic, and we should be focused on getting CloD to the level it needs to be to move forward...

Chivas 08-29-2012 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandstone (Post 457538)
I think the reputation of CloD is now so poisonous that it would be better for 1C to put as much distance between BoM and CloD as possible. A simple statement that CloD is finished would probably be for the best, accompanied by a radically different branding for BoM. The current state of play is not doing 1C's reputation any good at all and a clean break would at least give them a chance to put it behind them as a noble failure and move on to something more worthwhile. A clean break might also give them the chance to make any necessary personnel changes.

Personally I think most people understand the difficulties of the development and would hold no grudge if COD were fixed either thru patches until the Sequel is released, and most importantly that COD were merge-able with future Sequels so COD would benefit from any advancements in AI, Commands, FM, DM, Weather/Clouds, new features, optimizations, etc.

SiThSpAwN 08-29-2012 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Chivas (Post 457549)
Personally I think most people understand the difficulties of the development and would hold no grudge if COD were fixed either thru patches until the Sequel is released, and most importantly that COD were merge-able with future Sequels so COD would benefit from any advancements in AI, Commands, FM, DM, Weather/Clouds, new features, optimizations, etc.


+1

150GCT_Veltro 08-29-2012 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandstone (Post 457538)
I think the reputation of CloD is now so poisonous that it would be better for 1C to put as much distance between BoM and CloD as possible. A simple statement that CloD is finished would probably be for the best, accompanied by a radically different branding for BoM. The current state of play is not doing 1C's reputation any good at all and a clean break would at least give them a chance to put it behind them as a noble failure and move on to something more worthwhile. A clean break might also give them the chance to make any necessary personnel changes.

Bravo!

I couldn't say it better.

esmiol 08-29-2012 07:15 PM

i juste hope this time when the sequel will be release we will pay a real sim and not a beta like cliffs of dover was.

hope that it will be the last time we have to pay 2 times a game to have a release version of it.

hope that my trust in CLOD won't be betray.

now i really like to have some news from the dev about something (even a picture of new color cow.) because we are already so frustrated to let us in the cloud of info.

JG52Krupi 08-29-2012 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandstone (Post 457538)
I think the reputation of CloD is now so poisonous that it would be better for 1C to put as much distance between BoM and CloD as possible. A simple statement that CloD is finished would probably be for the best, accompanied by a radically different branding for BoM. The current state of play is not doing 1C's reputation any good at all and a clean break would at least give them a chance to put it behind them as a noble failure and move on to something more worthwhile. A clean break might also give them the chance to make any necessary personnel changes.

I have heard it all now... :rolleyes:

SlipBall 08-29-2012 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JG52Krupi (Post 457561)
I have heard it all now... :rolleyes:

+1
Clod is still the very best available, for people to enjoy WWII air combat:)

smink1701 08-29-2012 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SlipBall (Post 457563)
+1
Clod is still the very best available, for people to enjoy WWII air combat:)

Best available does not make CLoD a quality product. There is very little to be excited about here if you are a fan of WW2 combat sims. Remember, BOM, if it ever gets here, will be brought to you by the same team responsible for CLoD...and how did that work out? Considering how long it took the developers to deliver CLoD to our front doors, and then ring the bell and run, we will wait a very long time for another half-baked sim and then it will take months or years to get it right. CLoD is IC's case study on how they bring games to market and support them. Most will hold on to their wallets this time and that will be the end of the IL2 franchise. Sad.

SlipBall 08-29-2012 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by smink1701 (Post 457566)
Best available does not make CLoD a quality product. There is very little to be excited about here if you are a fan of WW2 combat sims. Remember, BOM, if it ever gets here, will be brought to you by the same team responsible for CLoD...and how did that work out? Considering how long it took the developers to deliver CLoD to our front doors, and then ring the bell and run, we will wait a very long time for another half-baked sim and then it will take months or years to get it right. CLoD is IC's case study on how they bring games to market and support them. Most will hold on to their wallets this time and that will be the end of the IL2 franchise. Sad.


What is also sad is that the $50. is only worth 8.4 meals for one, at the McDonald's franchise.:)


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