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AndyJWest 06-19-2010 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Xilon_x (Post 165391)
i have real document of secret U.S.A. mission in germany for stollen important document and project this is real story AndyWest. And you not want the real story.

Not on this forum, no. STOP POSTING GARBAGE.

Xilon_x 06-19-2010 03:38 PM

AndyWeast i have mosth garbage you not have a garbage because not because 'critical?
because 'we do not discuss?
U.F.O. the topic?

csThor 06-19-2010 04:33 PM

Hi dfrog. I hope you don't mind me cherry-picking some issues.

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Originally Posted by dFrog (Post 165381)
Brazil (allied) - seen some action in Italy
Bulgaria (axis at least)
China (nationalist + communist)
Croatia (axis)
Czechoslovakia (guess where I'm from)
Korea (North + South)
Mexico (allied) - seen some action in Pacific
Russian Liberation Army (axis) - wonder what Oleg will say, this isn't beloved part of their history
Spain (republican + nationalist)

Israel
Egypt
Syria

I have been thinking about adding a few more relevant nations, anyway, but so far other projects have taken over my time.

Brazil - if someone sends me the necessary data I'll put it on my list (one squadron flying P-47 IIRC)
Bulgaria - What for? The country's armed forces did not take part in the war against the USSR and we have no maps depicting their home defense.
China (nationalist + communist) - Nationalist China is not possible as it would lead to Il-2 being confiscated in China. This is a very real problem and since Daidalos has an official agreement with Maddox Games we're also subject to the same limitations.
Croatia (axis) - Same as Bulgaria. What for? There were two squadrons flying under german control (15.(kroat)/JG 52 and 15.(kroat)/KG 2) which could be added but lacking a map and looking at the native croatian effort it's hardly a relevant nation to be added.
Czechoslovakia (guess where I'm from) - TD concentrates on the 1941-45 timeframe (Martin said so). During this time there was no Czechoslovakia. 4.10 will contain the czech squadrons of the RAF since that was the most relevant effort of exile-Czechs, though. :)
Korea (North + South) - TD will not produce any content of the Korea War so neither nation will be added.
Mexico (allied) - seen some action in Pacific - See my notes WRT Brazil.
Russian Liberation Army (axis) - Historically irrelevant plus it's a touchy subject in Russia (like you said). No need to add them.
Spain (republican + nationalist) - ATM it makes no sense to add them. We have no maps and apart from I-16 Types 5 and 6 no aircraft. The spanish volunteer squadrons under Luftwaffe control would be more sensible. Is there demand for them?
Israel
Egypt
Syria
- All outside of TD's timeframe and scope. No need to add them.

Additionally an Allied Romania (post August 1944) and South Africa would make sense to be added as new nations.

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Originally Posted by dFrog (Post 165381)
and is there any chance of historically correct markings for Germany and Finland ? I'm no nazi lover, but this is how it was. Finland still has haken in official Finnish Air Force flag...

No, for the very simple reason that there is one international version and we cannot switch between historically correct and politically correct emblems. Even if such a switch existed it would create legal issues in Germany where the use of any swastika in games is banned. Additionally the russian parliament passed a law which may cause issues with swastikas in games as well, but that is not yet clear. Believe me - I asked if we could install such a switch, but we were asked not to do so and be cautious.

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Originally Posted by dFrog (Post 165381)
2- Fix US marking (no numbers but letter code) for ETO ? And british markings too - early british rounels are missing the outside yellow collor and tail bars.

I plan to update/correct the insignia, but there's a condition which hasn't been met, yet. Can't tell which one, though.

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Originally Posted by dFrog (Post 165381)
3- Add Ta-152 big tail to Fw-190D-9 Late - just cosmetic

What for? The major difference between early and late D-9 is the fuel and the use (or non-use) of MW-50. No need to add the Ta-152 tail which was a very very rare combination, anyway.


There are some additional comments I could make to the rest of your post but I am not entirely sure if that would be okay. I'll leave it to Martin to make a more in-depth reply.

dFrog 06-19-2010 05:34 PM

Thank You for your answer. You're right. But if we are talking about 1941-45, why do we have polish and french markings ingame and no croatian or bulgarian or other ? They fought in european theatre too.

csThor 06-19-2010 05:39 PM

I'm not Oleg. I'd have to make a guess to answer that one. :mrgreen:

Seriously. There are a lot of elements in Il-2 already which are - de facto - historically irrelevant. I see no reason to add yet more of them when the effort could and should be directed to historically relevant things.

Xilon_x 06-19-2010 05:53 PM

has nothing to do and if 'relevant or not relevant.
I think any historical fact can also not relevant 'to be important and could change history.
To many people it is convenient for the sake of publicity hide the arguments are not relevant.
I think it's also a question of respect of the nations that you do not feel irrelevant.
These nations participated in the second World War and 'important to include ALL.
ALSO IMPORTANT FOR ISSUE OF SALE OF PRODUCT SOW or il-2 Otherwise, we risk a decline in sales.

Xilon_x 06-19-2010 06:21 PM

THIS IS ALL ALLIES:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allies_of_World_War_II

THIS IS ALL AXIS:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axis_powers

HONOUR AND RESPECT AT ALL MEMBERS PARTECIPATING TO WORLD WAR II.

Symbology to airplane is different.

bf-110 06-19-2010 10:10 PM

Finnish and Germans markings can be enable via a program that isn´t a mod.

Even I wouldn´t ask for Brazil,we had a short campaign,(and Brazil wasn´t really a die hard allied,president Vargas had a simpathy for Germany,but wanted to keep off the war).Not because I´m against adding those countries,but TD should have some prorities.For those,you can use custom skins for the planes.
The most relevant ones are Spain and China.But as you said China would be a can of worms.Spain still a good choice for IL2,since Spanish Civil War isn´t far from WWII and IL2 already have a good number of the planes used on it.

LukeFF 06-19-2010 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by LukeFF (Post 160393)
There's an important loadout for the Fw 190 F-8 that's yet to be modeled: the Panzerblitz anti-tank rocket. From what I've read 190s were equipped with this weapon from early 1945:

http://www.luftwaffen-projekte.de/lw...lkrak/pd88.jpg

(nudge) ;)

Xilon_x 06-20-2010 10:10 AM

hahahahahahahah LukeFF :-):-P

and this?.............
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...90/torpedo.jpg

and also this?.....
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...0/msg113_1.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...-190/sg113.jpg

aaaaaannnndd thisssss?....
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...190/mSG116.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...190/mx4-10.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...90/bv246-6.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...-190/blitz.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...-190/a2g_5.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...-190/a2g_1.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...-190/a2g_4.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...-190/a2g_2.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...-190/a2g_3.jpg


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