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Skoshi Tiger 05-04-2012 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ParaB (Post 418849)
You guys are debating the modelling of how the canopy flies off the plane? In an early beta version? Seriously?

:grin:

BTW flew the P-51 online for 3 1/2 hrs last night with my buddies and had a blast. Take-offs and landing, formation flying, ground attacks and dogfighting, good fun!

Really looking forward to more 3rd-party devs starting to create content for DCS world. If the quality is on par with what I've seen so far I'd happily pay 40 bucks for each new plane.

At $40.00 a plane People will only buy the ones their attached too. Competitive people will only buy the best to rack up their scores.

If it was the $8.00- $15.00 that RoF charges then you'ld get people collecting them all.

Come to think of it if there were too many people willing to spend $40.00 how long would it take the ROF planes to start increasing in price?????

Downloadable content! You've gota love it! ;)

Ze-Jamz 05-04-2012 11:56 AM

Get used to it beacuse it will be the only way soon

Skoshi Tiger 05-04-2012 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Ze-Jamz (Post 418854)
Get used to it beacuse it will be the only way soon

You are not wrong!

ZaltysZ 05-04-2012 12:18 PM

I haven't bought it yet, and probably won't buy it soon, but I am interested in one thing. Can someone try diving from 7000m in DCS and in IL2 1946 and post your impressions?

Ze-Jamz 05-04-2012 12:21 PM

Just be another thing that we get screwed over with...gone the days of paying for a title and that's that..

Someone is their wisdom decided to charge us for Gucci stuff and we paid for it as being gamers we always want the best we can get with addons and extra content..

At the end of a Titles life span youd probably spend 2-3 times if not more than what the base release cost and thats all it will be originally..a platform

SiThSpAwN 05-04-2012 12:38 PM

Just as a side not incase it hasnt already been mentioned, you can download the Su-25T for free, you dont even have to purchase the P-51D to get it, just download the P-51 package, it will install DCS World, which gives you the Su-25T. Now its more like a Flaming Cliffs level plane, but if you own A-10, BS2 (which these both will be compatible next patch) or P-51, you can fly multiplayer with.

WTE_Galway 05-04-2012 12:58 PM

Coming soon on a social network near you.

P51 the facebook flash game.

Totally free to play.

(note: ... 0.50 cal for use in this game is currently $US5 for 100 rounds of incendiary or AP. Special deal, buy 1000 rounds and get 500 rounds of tracer for free, 87 octane fuel is $US5 for 10 gallons, 100 octane $US10 for 10 gallons)

Stublerone 05-04-2012 01:04 PM

Common guys, nobody ever critizised the FM of a blackshark or an A10 and compared it to real life behaviour, like we do here on cod. I doubt, that even it all has a "military simulator" in its history, that the ED engine has that powerful and up to date FM integrated.

Think about the requirements of the military to train people? They always say, that simulating flight aspects is always too difficult to simulate. They need it to train the brain of the pilots and to train the systems and what to do in different conditions. The FM is not as important for the military as the fully functional cockpit instruments. It is not a very detailed flight simulator, but is a highly detailed systems simulator.
I doubt, that the FM is taken as serious as it is taken for CloD. CloD with its old rudimentary systems cannot compete by nature with such a grade of clickable procedures. The main topic in ww2 aircraft is to manage flight technical things by ear, eyes, and the few gauges in a cockpit. You need much more flight dynamic accuracy, than u need in a fully autopilot computer controlled aircraft with a bunch of helping mechanisms.

So in my view, dcs will never reach comparable flight dynamics to CloD. But this is also not the intention of such a sim. It has other things to care of.

So i doubt, that the flight feeling of p51 will reach the p51 in clod, as soon as it is there. I have never flown a sim like the il2 series, where you have the same feeling of really having air under the wings.

It is matter of priorities, but I think the classics collection in dcs will not reach il2 series. They will have their enormous potential in newer aircraft with weapon systems to simulate.

Hope, they will get some life into the sims, because it always has a strange dead feeling, when u just flying around! Not to speak about the missions.

ACE-OF-ACES 05-04-2012 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ze-Jamz (Post 418854)
Get used to it beacuse it will be the only way soon

Not only do I think your right..

But I hope your right!

For several reasons.. One selection, Two cash flow for devs to do more, And last but not least.. Charging ~$40/plane has a 'flitering' effect.. And by filter I mean it tends to exclude the kid-os which in turn tends to exclude the brain dead team killing plane ramming types! ;)

ACE-OF-ACES 05-04-2012 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Stublerone (Post 418882)
They need it to train the brain of the pilots and to train the systems and what to do in different conditions. The FM is not as important for the military as the fully functional cockpit instruments. It is not a very detailed flight simulator, but is a highly detailed systems simulator.

Agreed 100%!

Most military flight simulators don't bother traning ACM.. It is all about the systems.. So there is a chance that the DCS FM may be lacking in realism.. Too soon to tell but I hope we are wrong..

If this P51 goes well for DCS.. Who knows.. They may shift thier focus a little? I hope so because their game engine is top notch!


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