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speculum jockey 10-22-2010 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hecke (Post 191865)
Awesome Pics.

Question:

Is the "weathering" in the cockpit dynamic?
Will I be able to fly in a cockpit that is completely new (without "weathering")?

I was reading the memoirs of an RAF pilot (post war) who had the chance to see Spits fresh from the factory and was amazed how the cockpits were so worn looking while the outsides were pristine. What happens is that the technicians are given a semi-finished cockpit that has already been painted and now requires gauges and controls, and lights to be hooked up and installed. What usually happens is the inside of the cockpit gets scraped up pretty thoroughly due to the amount of work being done inside a cramped space with a lot of tools at a usually somewhat hurried pace.

Hence cockpits being less than pristine/"pre-weathered".

julien673 10-22-2010 04:44 PM

Nice job IC maddox ! ! And thk oleg for this picture :). May i ask you on what computer this picture was take , and which cong 0:O)

Sry againg folk for the bad english :)


P.S. I love the last picture, the ground and the ligh look really good... event the river ! ! wooww ! !

Stiboo 10-22-2010 04:46 PM

Stunning cockpits...I might even switch off my normal HUD view and give cockpits a try...

Oleg -

Will skill levels of A.I. pilots open or close canopys differently- take/off landing, oil over glass so they have to peer out the side etc..or do all A.I. pilots do the same?

or any options in the FMB to tell pilot to have an open canopy? ( ok don't think the 109 could open cockpit in flight..)

Is there a view point for outside views that is inside an A.I. plane cockpit..
ie- A.I. pilot view?

Release this year? It takes me 3-6 months to make an IL2 campaign, I do not want to be half way through a campaign build and then Storm Of War is released!

Cheers

Simon

philip.ed 10-22-2010 04:47 PM

Oleg, very nice update, definately the best cockpits I've ever seen by a long mile. :D +1 for a jaw-drop smiley.


But one thing I noticed: the RAF pilots reflection shows him with no oxygen mask but wearing his goggles down. I don't know of any pilots who chose to fly with their goggles down unless they were (maybe) attacking bombers or had their plane hit. The goggles really impair visibilty and are quite a nuisence. Even getting them into position so well is difficult, as the b-type helmet had large ear-domes which is why specific goggles (the mark IV series) were made for that helmet.
This is only a teeny-tiny detail though, but the information is here for you to use if you wish ;)

Oleg, nice picture of the landscape. Some 3-D hedges and it would look superb :D

Oleg Maddox 10-22-2010 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speculum jockey (Post 191954)
I was reading the memoirs of an RAF pilot (post war) who had the chance to see Spits fresh from the factory and was amazed how the cockpits were so worn looking while the outsides were pristine. What happens is that the technicians are given a semi-finished cockpit that has already been painted and now requires gauges and controls, and lights to be hooked up and installed. What usually happens is the inside of the cockpit gets scraped up pretty thoroughly due to the amount of work being done inside a cramped space with a lot of tools at a usually somewhat hurried pace.

Hence cockpits being less than pristine/"pre-weathered".

I was reading the same things, but about russian aircraft. Painting of the airframe was the last thing that was done on the factory. In the cockpit was worjking a lot of workers. Begining from mechanikers and finish with elecrical gauges then repeating with tunings and changes...

Letum 10-22-2010 04:48 PM

VERY sexy.

You can be proud of those 'pits Oleg & team.

PhilHL 10-22-2010 04:48 PM

Videos are captured on 6. Sept 2010 around 7 oclock in the morning.
I think the colors of olegs preview screens are matching very nicely so far :)


Flight from London Heathrow to Bremen Germany Early Morning Sept. 2010 PART 1 Shortly after TakeOff

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMC-9Lr7RrI


Flight from London Heathrow to Bremen Germany Early Morning Sept. 2010 PART 2 Getting Altitude

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2PwDiEKvJM


Flight from London Heathrow to Bremen Germany Early Morning Sept. 2010 PART 3 Crossing the Channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjTEIAueHbo

Oleg Maddox 10-22-2010 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philip.ed (Post 191960)
Oleg, very nice update, definately the best cockpits I've ever seen by a long mile. :D +1 for a jaw-drop smiley.


But one thing I noticed: the RAF pilots reflection shows him with no oxygen mask but wearing his goggles down. I don't know of any pilots who chose to fly with their goggles down unless they were (maybe) attacking bombers or had their plane hit. The goggles really impair visibilty and are quite a nuisence. Even getting them into position so well is difficult, as the b-type helmet had large ear-domes which is why specific goggles (the mark IV series) were made for that helmet.
This is only a teeny-tiny detail though, but the information is here for you to use if you wish ;)

Oleg, nice picture of the landscape. Some 3-D hedges and it would look superb :D


reflection on the gauges are not dynamic. They are prerendered.
Don't expect they will move.

Simply all these reflections makes the feel of real lighting and overal photographic quality of the whole picture.

For the dynamically changed halftransparent reflections of a pilot and its movement in so many glassed surfaces will make so great impact on fps that you will glad to switch it off forever...

Compomise - static. Looks excellent.

BadAim 10-22-2010 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oleg Maddox (Post 191961)
I was reading the same things, but about russian aircraft. Painting of the airframe was the last thing that was done on the factory. In the cockpit was worjking a lot of workers. Begining from mechanikers and finish with elecrical gauges then repeating with tunings and changes...

I've seen pictures of brand new aircraft, with chipped up access panels, oil and exhaust stains. I don't doubt that these cockpits are close to accurate.

BadAim 10-22-2010 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oleg Maddox (Post 191965)
reflection on the gauges are not dynamic. They are prerendered.
Don't expect they will move.

Simply all these reflections makes the feel of real lighting and overal photographic quality of the whole picture.

For the dynamically changed halftransparent reflections of a pilot and its movement in so many glassed surfaces will make so great impact on fps that you will glad to switch it off forever...

Compomise - static. Looks excellent.

I like your Idea of compromise, It's rather......uncompromising.


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