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rasante_pucará 03-23-2012 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by trashcanman (Post 401981)
There has never been any Argentinian settlers on the Falklands.
Argentina did not even exist as a separate sovereign nation at the time that the desentants of the current occupants of the islands settled there.

Penguins yes. Argentinians no!

The british kick out the sout american/spanish settlers of Malvinas. Many of this settlers, were from regions that actually belongs to Argentina

rasante_pucará 03-23-2012 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Osprey (Post 401423)
In actual fact Mount Tumbledown, overlooking Stanley, was a fortress packed with several hundred Marines, some of Argentina's best troops, who were dug in.

They were attacked by 300 Scotsmen, so it's no surprise that they eventually ran for their lives. When the jocks got the upper hand the Argies ordered their own Arty to fire on their position.


Big mistake here. The 5º Infantry Battalion was conformed by 70% conscrip soldiers. They wasn´t a elite unit (The diferences between others units, it´s that this was prepared for this type of combat)

The Scot Guard Battalion (300 man? Here the Battalion are of 500 man aprox) fight against a part of NACAR company of 5º I. Battalion.
They fight againts two sections of 5º Marines, and 1 section of the RI4 (Army, those tooke parte in goose green battle and retreat to tumbledown). The scotish fight against 100-150 mans.

Kongo-Otto 03-26-2012 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Osprey (Post 401423)
They were attacked by 300 Scotsmen, so it's no surprise that they eventually ran for their lives. When the jocks got the upper hand the Argies ordered their own Arty to fire on their position.

I wouldn't call that battle including fierce Hand to Hand combat with fixed bayonets a "ran for their lives" also i believe you are underestimating the strenght of 2 Btl SG i'm pretty sure that there were more than 300 men involved in the attack.
IIRC there were two bayonet charges performed by the Scots Guards. When the perimeter was secured by 2 SG the Argies launched a first counter attack which was fought off by the Scots.
The Argies had to withdraw when outflanked by the SG and even then the Argie Marines planned another counter attack, the final withdrawal was ordered by Argies staff back in Stanley.
Btw when the Argie arty started up firing the Mountain top the positions were already taken by the SG so calling it firing at own positions isn't quite correct because at that point the Argie Marines were in retreat and have already left the Mountain top and also is to mention that during the whole battle there was very accurate Mortar fire on the advancing SG by a Argentine Mortar Platoon at Mount William.

Siko 03-26-2012 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rasante_pucará (Post 401992)
Big mistake here. The 5º Infantry Battalion was conformed by 70% conscrip soldiers. They wasn´t a elite unit (The diferences between others units, it´s that this was prepared for this type of combat)

The Scot Guard Battalion (300 man? Here the Battalion are of 500 man aprox) fight against a part of NACAR company of 5º I. Battalion.
They fight againts two sections of 5º Marines, and 1 section of the RI4 (Army, those tooke parte in goose green battle and retreat to tumbledown). The scotish fight against 100-150 mans.

Wikipedia quotes 900 Scots versus 500 Marines.


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