I know what example you were giving, and it was completely irrelevant, if you keep listening in to other peoples conversations about the weather it's your problem, here unfortunately the rest of us are not given the choice over the mindless whingeing, it creeps into every thread.

They posted last Friday that they start assembling new version this week meaning roughly they target for this week.

I posted last Friday here that according to sukhoi.ru that the problem is "new graphical artefacts".

This is common knowledge for a week already. Now need to spam every thread with "are we there yet?" and "the devs must post today when we are there". Grow up please.

And yes it is normal that it takes more than 6 months or a year for a new person to fix a mess created during 6 years by several other programmers who were fired.

Bongodriver said:

>>I'm fine thanks, I just made the mistake of thinking you were smarter than you appear.<<

It happens to the best of us

>>My own style? whose style am I using? <<

Well you've tried various, including mine. Not many seem to fit. But that's what you get for taking people on all the time. I'm not really sure that Aces, Carguy, Hayward, Robtek et al is a club worth joining...? Personally I'd give it some thought.

oh, and :)

I think you will find sarcasm is universal.

Oh and wheres my goose?

If it's not out by next week, well - then I'll really be surprised.

It looks like things are shaping up nicely for another typical 1C forums Friday. I will check the carnage after work.

i'm pretty sure we heard something today, ready or not.

Ini@ moderators: Please directly delete this thread, as it is again totally wrong. I do not understand, why some guys interpret posts their way and finally open a thread with a totally misleading topic!

Sorry, that I am trolling now, too, but wtf is the initiator of this thread thinking? Learn to be patient, before posting shit, which is just waste of reading time. It is childish, because the poster of a new thread should be aware, that he also has kind responsibility to avoid such "KIDS" posts.

Again several minutes waste of time initiated by a guy, who is not able to think 5 meters. Sry for that but it makes me angry. No discipline here in the forum. Every post is flooded by misleading information and hundreds of pages with waste.

If I want to follow here, I have to read dozens of pages per monute with crap.

Please close thread, admins! :)

Saturday is a work-day in Russia. Check in tomorrow :)

As its par for the course (no news for a broken/unfinished product) there is really no suprise is there?
One year on and only (very) limited access.

Closed

Listen in? Who said I listen in? People, colleagues, friends, they all complain to me about things that have peeved them off. You also have a choice in that you don't read their posts or just put them on your ignore list.

is that why you whinge here then? so tired of other peoples complaints so you just want to offload onto us here?

you could just as easily choose not to read my posts, or put me on ignore......why is it people full of such good advice never take it?

I am not whinging as you put it, I am just saying that people who bought the game and are unhappy with it have a right to complain if it is not working for them.

Why should I put you on ignore just because you disagree with me, it's not like I am bothered that you disagree with me. I suggested it to you because you sound fed up of people complaining.

I have exactly the same view on the ignore list thing as you, maybe you're not the classic example of the whiner I describe so I appologize for having said that, yes I am fed up of the whinier side of the complaining.

But......complaining becomes whining very quickly when it's just a repetition, I ask....if you said it once to 'everyone' does it need to be repeated?, why are complainers under the impression that complaining on this forum is going to rewrite history and make all things well again? so far the whining has achieved nothing but irritation to forum users.....this is the real point here, when you complain here it's not directed where it really needs to go (the devs) it's just forum bloating crap.

Nett effect of all this is just damaging to the game (I believe it's the intention) this couldn't have been illustrated more clearly by the recent moronic and fake 'Black Six' post, there is no denying there are people out there hell bent on causing damage to this game and that is what I want to counter.

I wouldn`t call it intentional. IMO it`s more of the plain too much time - moronism mix.

Bongodriver said:

>>Oh and wheres my goose? <<

Well cooked...fries with that?

>>Nett effect of all this is just damaging to the game (I believe it's the intention) this couldn't have been illustrated more clearly by the recent moronic and fake 'Black Six' post, there is no denying there are people out there hell bent on causing damage to this game and that is what I want to counter.<<

Yes, of course, but why conflate that with genuine critcism? Because it's easy and fun? Because you can grandstand and do the sword-of-righteousness routine? Because you can just lump everyone in together and make out it's all rubbish?

Well, yes, you can. But one runs the risk of looking like an idiot in the process.

As intentionally for damaging the game...well, there are many replies to this, but we'll forgo the easy pot-shots such as the devs got there first etc...

If you are intent on having the last word, it helps to have a first word i.e. something to say...not just countering every time for it's own sake. Your posts, and those of Carguy, Aces, Hayward et al... need substance, not just complaining-about-the-complaining. It doesn;' go anwywhere because it can't go anywhere - especially when the underlying causes for complaint remain valid.

That just about sums up all your contributions

So youre saying my goose is cooked?.....as to suggest my time has run out and great peril is about to befall me, by your hand?

Doesn't happen

Wow and you really can't see the hypocrisy in that statement?
You really can't quite believe that some people are genuinely annoyed by the constant 'entitlement junkie' culture breeding here, and are automatically categorised as 'fanboi trolls' should they let it be known.

You illustrate this fact very well

I remember your first words on this forum well, it started with hypocrisy and has continued since.

Bongodriver said:

>>So youre saying my goose is cooked?.....as to suggest my time has run out and great peril is about to befall me, by your hand?<<

Oh get a grip, real drama queeny stuff....never mind the anachronisms (hints of David Starkey?)

>>(genuine critcism) Doesn't happen<<

It happens all the time. You just don't like it.

>>You really can't quite believe that some people are genuinely annoyed by the constant 'entitlement junkie' culture breeding here, and are automatically categorised as 'fanboi trolls' should they let it be known.<<

No. Holier-than-thou pirouetting. People are criticising a game, not complaining that they haven't ascending to heaven.

>>I remember your first words on this forum well, it started with hypocrisy and has continued since.<<

Well then I think you need to move on, not least because you're probably remembering my 'recent' re-joining. I was a member (albeit quiet) for years before. But don't get too worked about it. Your own posts have always struck me as high-handed and rather malevolent, which fits right in with the most of the other more acerbic critic-baiters. Plus ca change.

Get a grip? You are the one who started the goose cooking, go figure some guy who continuously speaks as if reciting Shakespeare (and is called Fallstaff to boot) is calling me a drama queen.

Oh dear...youre not so smart are you? when quoting someone it is somewhat invalidated when the text you quote is ammended by your hand.

Oh lord have mercy......

Moving on...now theres a thought, if only more people could do that.

So you re-joined only so you could ask to be removed? clearly your thought processes are.......well just bizare.

Bongo...'smart' and 'smarter' seem to be recurring themes in your posts. As if you're trying to one-up all the time. Something else you would appear to have in common with Carguy, Hayward, Aces, Robtek etc. It is about appearances, not reality i.e. trying to appear to defeat the critics. But once again, the product defeats you, not the complaints.

And this is what, ultimately, it boils down to, perhaps. Deferred frustration - you and others are probably not playing the game as much as you would like (for the same reasons as the rest of us) and probably turning your mis-placed anger on the critics instead of the devs, in the mistaken belief you're clinging to higher ground, and performing a useful function. In truth, you and your sort are doing neither.

Be as wise as you like - the game is still ****ed (that's porked, to go with your cooked goose)

Check you on revisions! never mind I have let countless of your spelling/syntax/grammar errors go on the grounds that they can keep eachother company if nothing else :)

It's Falstaff btw, you may want to start practising your puns round about now....

And check you...'befallen' indeed... :)

Is that before or after 'crestfallen'?

I'll give it a rest now. I suggest you do the same. The odds say you probably can't resist a reply. We'll see.

Ah yes...this old chestnut, because I'm here I'm not playing the game, one of the other favourite tools in the inventory.

grammar and spelling Nazi....very endearing, having failed to counter with a cohesive reply you resort to this, I may have a form of dislexia....did you consider that?

whats an extra 'l' between friends :)

you have a problem with my use of the word 'befall'?

Why are you asking me?

But of course I will reply, your Jedi mind tricks won't work on me, your sentence should have stopped at 'I'll give it a rest now'

Is No News Good News???
 

I really hope the silence means the dev team is loading the patch. If not, I can't imagine with all the anticipation they are just sitting in their bunker and won't be giving us anything.

I can

Dammed if you do dammed if you don't

But saying nothing can be worse than saying something

Even if it is as short as to say 'nothing new to report'

Because if you don't say something the whiners will fill in the 'void' with their imaginations and baseless unfounded speculations.

yes, you can ! ;)

Looks bad, it's 7:40 pm in Russia.

I don't give up yet:grin:

I choose to wait and see

I think if it was bad news they would state the patch was delayed again, so I say no news is better than bad news ;)

Personally speaking, I would appreciate it as an act of courtesy if they would just tell us that it isn't going to happen today.

Such an easy thing to do. To leave it hanging in the air is annoying. They must be aware of the continued anticipation, especially on Fridays.

What about snow news?

Agreed 100% with you.

My heart doesn't want to give up but my mind has already left this forum for two weeks...

/mazex

Who are you to keep wading in with the insults? Just ignore the comments and your life will become much easier, as whatever humour you trying to put into your comments is falling flat on it's face. Unless you enjoy the arguing which would not surprise me.

So...a year of waiting for this sim to function properly is "baseless"? LOL! I guess when you leave a year long void, it will be filled with something.

I like it.
Fridays are like corner kicks.

The anticipation, a chance....

No news, is quite simply no news, nothing more, nothing less.

This however, is comedy news,

:-P

I think they are aware, which is why last week it seemed as soon as they knew it wasnt going to go they let us know which ended up being a Thursday, I think we can remain hopeful they havent run into a issue that has stopped progress to warrant any communications...

Could I very politely and respectfully ask Force10 and Aces to PLEASE not start another tit for tat exchange here.

Thanks.

No need to guess

All one has to do is read one of the thousands of whinner are-we-there-yet posts in this forum

So you are saying we should all have a group prayer session :)

It isn't going to happen today. You're welcome!

At the end of the day its a beta so i think they should release it anyways been long enuff now, if it was the finished patch id be happy to wait but wtf comn as i said its a god damn beta release !!!!;)

When there is news it will be posted.

And you do read every one of them don't ya Ace? Not only that, you respond to almost all of them as well....at least it gives you something to do since your obviously not flying the sim.

might as well polish those crystal balls, evidently they are not clear enough to see CLOD's future..

i am an aethiest,,, I think prayer is hoooey (trying to be nice..)... and if it really worked we would have never had wwii or, of course, then no cod...

so be thankful it didn't work or else tidly winks would be your sim that needs a patch... with broken tidly fm's... and professional tidly cheaters.. or wink cheaters..

this is unacceptable
 

I cant belive that situation. 2 week ago you say that the patches was ready but today at 27-4-12.
where is the patche? i think that you are a liers that do public relation like a child.
If you continuate in this conduct its possible that your company go to crash.

Ahora como no os molestais en informarnos os escribo lo ultimo en 1 perfecto castellano para ver si asi haceis algo:
La secuela la va a comprar vuestra puñetera madre.

Como siempre tan positivo...

You forget how many time longed for every Oleg's patch...

patch is ready but don't pass tech test...
it's useless to test a patch with bug they know...

it's a graphical bug... just be patient...

Realmente positivo e inspirador.

Where is the friday update today?
 

Where is the friday update?
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/9666/bennyw.gif

Totalmente de acuerdo con el colega.
I agree

+1

Ha Benny Hill, I am now imagining the devs running around at high speed chasing bugs to the tune of the chase music in Benny Hill... oh my, I need a break :)

Enquiry regarding patch
 

Just a polite enquiry: I realise it's past 11pm in Moscow - could we have an update on whether it's likely the patch will be released this evening?

Many thanks.

wouldn't that ruin the surprise?

I'm thinking Saturday...hope the developers are too.

No patch today, it's sure now :( come back tomorrow, it's workday in Russia

Well, knowing would allow me to focus on something else this evening, instead of refreshing constantly. I don't mind if we're not getting it, I would just be very grateful if we could have an indication.

No patch, no news.
Blacksix knows nothing. Does he work in a box on his own or in the same office as the rest of the team?
No talking at work?
maybe a chat at lunchtime?
Does Luthier have meetings?

Oh please don't use this thread for moaning.

They're not going to post "not today" updates every day. They're going to announce when it is ready.

No patch, no news.
Blacksix knows nothing. Does he work in a box on his own or in the same office as the rest of the team?
No talking at work?
maybe a chat at lunchtime?
Does Luthier have meetings?

Maybe Luthier didn't make it into work, his car prob broke down at the last minute.

No patch today my love has gone away ....

From The Downfall: "Mein Fuhrer...........mein Fuhrer......there's something..........there's something wrong with the charts..........."

In my country we say : No news, good news!

Hope is live, we have hope we shall live long!

We have never being disapointed by the IL2 games never at the end.

Maybe Russians have a different timetable and "early next week" is like "end of the week that comes after the month in beginning of next year" ??? Just being a bit optimistic ;)

at least we can tell that it's the first time in history that a allegedly "broken game" is bringing so much attention ( maybe since Daikatana)

Luthier, Megaupload link doesn't work
 

Megaupload link has been siezed by USA govt. Please give alternate download. Not torrent (too slow).

If you're referring to the "May 4th Beta" thread, if you look closer you'll notice that someone has dug up a nearly 1 year old thread. It's not a new patch at all...... Just someone's sense of humour (definition remains debatable).

Another week no patch
 

Well another week has passed and no patch yet, now this make me think why 1C doesn't do the same as neoqb with RoF and sell the sim to 777 studios that is an amazing development studio that did magic with RoF, our actual sound engine is thanks to 777 studios's sound engineer, that did magic with the CloD sound engine in just one patch

So 1C please, think about it and sell CloD to 777 studios for the good of this sim.

Potz

777 Studios isn't interested in fixing bugs and making a quality sim. They are interested only in implementing the features that they can sell as DLC.

Glaring bugs in the game remain unfixed, but the developers continue to release paid cosmetic addons.

My Life Isn't Desperate For A Patch...Is yours?
 

Calm down and take your woman out for a drink of wine.

Enjoy the wine.

And then enjoy your woman.

Simple solution.

Breast Regards,
MB_Avro.

That's got old a long time ago. Solution is to get away from the woman!

i tried this i took my woman out fore beer, then we come home and still no patch!!! now second suggestion but i think no patch will result still! :evil:

I agree with cometics sales but still compared with clod the rof is 1000 times more refined and enjoyable as a game i think. which bugs are you refferring to?

Nope, but I'm on vacation, so it would be good timing.

Stupid thread, at any rate.

You sir, got trolled!

Some quotes from the new (old) patch
 

FS_Phat said:

>>Performance gain is considerable for crossfire, at least for me and its only using 50%-60% of each of my 4 GPUs so clearly more optimisation to come.

I get avg 40FPS and 80FPS max in BlackDeath with single card and avg 74FPS and 176FPS max with crossfire. I call that significant. This is only in single player though.<<

>>Great work guys! Best performance and smoothness so far!!

Black Death Track AVG 67 FPS MAX 168 FPS MIN 15 FPS.
ATI Crossfire working all 4 GPU cores 50 to 60% smoothly.
Settings all High with 8xAA SSAO on, grass,roads,shadows on full screen mode w/ vsync off.

I notice the spit vs 110 track stutters and drops FPS a lot with the clouds though.<<

JG5 Emil said:

>>Finally able to play in my Laptops native resolution of 1920 x 1080 WOW!

Just did some quick tests over london which was fantastic. Not got my stick plugged in yet so i cant really do a proper flight but I just launched the london and manston flights and used mouse to pan around. Got average of 37 in the black death which I would imagine is acceptable?<<

Blackdog_Kt said:

>>Best performance and stability ever on my rig. I unzipped into the main installation folder and then cleared the cache folders as usual before running the sim.

Before this patch i had trouble with my GPU not clocking up as it should, then i tried forcing the clocks which worked but gave me reboots, then i renamed the ubi logo video file which again gave me correct GPU speeds but also resulted in instability and reboots.

With the current beta patch i just set it to run in fullscreen mode and the catalyst drivers took care of everything else.<<

Some good endorsements there....I would also quote Robtek and some others but their posts seem to have been hastily removed....

Sadly, it all speaks volumes. The triumph of wishful thinking? It was a mean trick to play (I had no inkling or part) but you have to agree, it is instructive....

Rise of flight was released June 2009 so it is 3 years old. Clod is one year old...

+1

yes but after a year RoF was running good since was owned by 777 studios, neoqb the russian developer was doing the same as 1C with clod

Fear not...you should see the patch approximately in 9 months:-P

Unlike some people I am having no problems what so ever with this game. I guess fps could be better down near the ground but it is still very playable by a long shot. What I am waiting for is Russia and the rest of the war because The Battle Of Britain was never my "Piece Of Cake" to begin with as far as likes in the theaters of war. You are basically doing the same route over and over every time you take off day in day out. Russia has water in the Crimea and your running all over the map in the mother land. The Mediterranean has a mirroriad of different landscapes to battle over. The Air War over Europe is back to flying over the channel but I like it better because I'm deffending over land over a large expansion hunting for targets. I've gone back to IL-2 for a while for it's great variety and old friends.

I like how people here like to tell you how to treat your women. Why dont you call your mom also and tell her you love her and thanks for giving birth to you.

Bingo! :D :D :D

Ouch....but, spot on. :)

If we follow the OP advice we will all be changing baby diapers instead of flying in 9 months.

Its cool when you call everything a troll, trolled, or trolling in some form.

just as a reminder, 777 studio brought a license from shockwave production to use the merlin engine and built a game on top of it

it's faster to build a car this way

Yep, you're dead right. Never looked at the dates, just saw Sli/Crossfire support and hoped.
Should have known better. This whole thing is becoming a major joke.

got to the point like it or not but i dont think i will ever purchase software from this company again its been a trainwreak,
almost all these latest titles from ubi soft are far from finished, poor beta testing inhouse, titles such as silent hunter 5 now this sim.
i tested out rise of flight free demo, its incredible the performance difference these 2 sims offer, looks like rise of flight
dev team used there minds and created code that uses all the cpu cores, had performance in mind from day one.
such as shame , willing to give it one more patch attempt trial, if it fails in performace i am removing this software from my drive for good, and moving on

we pay good money for these titles least have them tested better before launch, other method many companies are now starting to do is pre purchase open beta testing,
to get more of the community involved, for the efforts they get some freebies ie addons maps etc extra content at no charge ,
more heads finding bugs the better polished product we get.

not one for rants but it had to be said.

My Brother..

And he does not wait for the patch....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8I8mW...SMbN3vWLFvWMDW


Breast Regards,
MB_Avro.

You hardly EVER play MP in clodo, try a populated server! ... Its only playable for 20-120 mins at best... For a multiplayer Squadron this is a slow strangulation!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9DDpmyPZZA

No shame mate, just place your head in my shoulder and cry... It's ok. :(

Would make sense, if you leave out the fact that CloD was way longer (maybe twice as long?) in development.

What you could perhaps do, is compare the costs for the customer of those two flightsims. I probably spend $200 or so on ROF and about $30 for CloD. Of course you can also pay way less for ROF, it's even F2P now (of course with limited planeset avaliable).

777 is mostly ROF, so alot of that money from sales could go into the development of ROF, while for CloD, Ubisoft also gets its share, atleast from non-russian market sales. So that makes a difference

It does make use of all CPU cores, but not fully. Overall CPU usage varies i think and can be as low as 50%. Same is true for the GPU.

Don't like much of the recent pay-ware stuff, but the number of "glaring" bugs is not exactly that big.


But no, i don't think 777 is that interested in buying this sim, so the topic is mood.

Chrissakes....

They're working to try and fix things. Yes it's been a sorry state of things, yes a lot of people are unhappy paying for poor content, but from what they tell us they are trying to repair the sim; which incidentally is no simple matter.

Give the poor sods a break - I think they get the picture. I think they got it a long time ago.