Not sure were like the mushrooms fed full of cr£p and kept in the dark. ;)

Got to admit Bob....you only registered today to have a complain and now youre talking like a veteran here and expecting us to believe you arent a recently banned member.

Wolf Rider said:

>>and some wonder why the sim was pushed out the door early (and the "we want it now" crowd then complain incessantly about it being "broken") <<

The daftest thing I've read on here, and that's saying something, given the competition.

So the latest get-out-of-jail... is that some customers forced the release? You can tell a certain faction are in trouble when they have to come out with 28 carat tosh like this....

(Have we scraped through the barrel into the ground yet?)

A quick re-cap:

A. All will be well int he future (c.f. crystal ball, lot's of future tense, lots of tense-ness anyhow...)

B. It's the customer's wot forced the release, so the customers wot broke it

C. Let me guess...it will the customer's wot forced the release of the next patch before it woz ready, if it turns out to have problems, in it...blood...etc etc

I think we just hit earth's core....

Who do you mean by "we", white man?

I think some are just getting too old to fly.

Seriously, even with all these bugs the game's still good compared to the competition. Even the DCS games ran like crap for me in the beginning and they have a completely different situation, simply selling "casual" stuff to make an extra penny while earning through mil contracts.

And don't even get me started on Rise of Greed. It was buggy as well and they gave a damn about customers. Recently the game's good although the amount of money you dump on it for the tiny content it has is insane.



The game has bugs, alright. So what? There's tons of other stuff out there to play or do while we wait. Go work and earn some money to buy better hardware e.g. as that already fixes a ton of problems by itself.
I played a huge number of games, not just flight sim stuff, and even AAA titles like Battlefield 3 or CoD to name a few recent titles have tons of bugs and issues.

Flight sim enthusiasts are number crunchers though. They look at the details and the finesse. Things are bound to seem broken when looked at under a magnifying glass. Of course there are horrible bugs in the game but it's not like the world ends today because of it. At least they're working on it - and I bet some of you are in worse shape without working on it...

Dude do you suffer from Paranoia? maybe you could pm me if you wanna talk about it in private. :confused:

No need, it's just apparently you just bought the game and registered to complain today, and then you start going on about being kept in the dark here like youre an old hand, no paranoia just sound deduction.

What an old hand like yourself you mean?

No

Robtek said:

>>Who do you mean by "we", white man? <<

I mean 'we', 'us', plural of 'I'...

My good fellow, if I may beg your indulgence, I was employing the vernacular idiom for ironical effect...

Are we out of the earth's core yet...it's quite hot, don't you know...

Don't worry about it Bob. Taildragger and others are part of the Tin Foil Hat Brigade. They keep thinking any new member is one they struggled to get banned, and think you are him.

I managed to get a pic inside their headquarters:

http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/2954/tindm.jpg

Wheres David?

Why wouldn't we?

Ask yourself

What good would it serve to lie and say they found a bug at the last min during testing.. When they actully didn't find a bug and the patch is ready for release.

I can not think of one good reason to lie about that..

Can you?

Bingo

Bingo

I haven't made a single tree-spotter post. The mods should be able to spot recently banned posters.

It's more like they aren't even close to releasing the patch, but keep making us believe that they just found a bug that stopped them from releasing it, even though it could be another 6 months out and they just don't want to say that. I hope I'm wrong about that, but it could be the train of thought of why there is no explanation this time.

Talk about paranoid

Take some friendly advice and stick to what your good at

Editing and posting pictures

Because IMHO business logic is not your strong suit

It's not paranoia as much as looking at past history. It was almost release months ago and then it was a problem with decals....then after some months it was particles...now it's....an unreleased issue. Their track record for patches on this sim just invites speculation.

The troll fairy is cunjuring up new members

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If believing that makes you feel better so be it.. But your line of reasoning makes no business sense IMHO

Stick to the trolling pictures..

In that it is clear that you have more of an artiest mind set than a business mind set

Of course they can spot them, so why all the paranoia?

Releasing COD in the state it was in made no business sense either....but here we are

LOL he's going to love that :) im sure though he will not mind, he has a sense of humor, unlike some.

To be honest we all have a sense of humour its just a shame we are all trying to cut each others virtual throats.

Not surprised that an artiest would see it that way ;)

Stick to trolling with your edited pictures!

That is your strong suit IMHO!

Obviously you don't have a good answer...I'm surprised you didn't *yawn*

Not surprised that an artiest would see it that way

Stick to trolling with your edited pictures!

That is your strong suit IMHO!

Probably because the mods have been slow to remove previously banned posters in the past.

Really? Assuming they were out of money and time (a very reasonable assumption, after many years of development), do you really think it made more sense to go out of business than release the game and get the money needed to complete it?

I'm a little concerned Ace....looks like your nauseum track is stuck and your posting the same thing over and over! Might I suggest smacking your head on the table to try and fix it. Let us know your ok.

>>and some wonder why the sim was pushed out the door early (and the "we want it now" crowd then complain incessantly about it being "broken") <<





yes, that's right Falstaff...

A 7 year development time is "early"? Ummm....ok. Meanwhile back on the planet Earth.....

yet, some wonder.....

Ok...back to Crystal ball........ it is getting clearer...clearer....cleeearer...

"We are all very busy and the patch is just not quite ready this week....here are a few more pics....enjoy.... The patch will be ready 30May2......" damn crystal ball has faded...


Oh well.... :-P

Wolf Rider said..

>> >>and some wonder why the sim was pushed out the door early (and the "we want it now" crowd then complain incessantly about it being "broken") <<

yes, that's right Falstaff... <<

Can anyone top this for legendary laughable lunacy?

(Ptolemy was right....what Copernican revolution...?)

I think it's going to take more than a sticking plaster to fix this logic....

My crystal ball says:

Next info about the patch will be sth like ... "I have to tell you is very bad news ..." (hickups, artefacts, slowdowns... Be creative!)

Save this post so you people can't pretend I haven't told you so. ;)

yes, again... that is correct



well, unfortunately (for some) software RnD is like that... oh, if only this was a perfect world and all a programmer had to do was to pour a whole lot of letters, numbers, and punctuation marks into a hopper and then go around to the side and wind the "Make My programm" handle - churning out the perfect bug free program.
Wouldn't that be just peachy?

Wolf Rider said:

>>yes, again... that is correct<<

You mean the customers forced the botched release...? As in your original point? Or are your revising this with a change of emphasis?

I wouldn't blame you if you did. Your first point is so mental Mary it is not worth replying to.

Ben

Wolf Rider said:

>>well, unfortunately (for some) software RnD is like that... oh, if only this was a perfect world and all a programmer had to do was to pour a whole lot of letters, numbers, and punctuation marks into a hopper and then go around to the side and wind the "Make My programm" handle - churning out the perfect bug free program.
Wouldn't that be just peachy? <<

Indeedy.

But no-one has suggested that, however hard you try to mince their words in your happy hopper.

Equally, programming may be art as well as science, but what about project management, scheduling, work-flow, and knowing-what-the-heck-you-and-your-programmers-are-doing-even-that-quiet-bloke-in-the-corner..?

This forum always has a number of people telling everyone else how difficult it is to code a flight-sim, and bow their head in reverential silence, but people manage it. They also manage the project, the alpha-beta-release-candidate testing, the localisation and publishing etc etc

Above all, the successful ones manage their customers to a greater or lesser extent.

How you manage things when things go wrong is also telling.

I suggest you flesh out your peach a little more.

Ben

Do you seriously believe this? You don't think it could be because they needed the money to continue with the development? But lets say you were correct, you aren't, but lets say you were.. Then why is it that they haven't released the patch due to public pressure? Please don't tell me it's because they have learn a lesson when it's their job to know about development and business to be in this industry. The only reason why they won't release the patch right now is because it would harm more profit given the fact the game has received bad reviews..Nothing to do with what we want and when we want.

Go back and see what people said in the dev update thread where Black6 said about not wanting to release a broken beta patch. Does this look like public pressure to release to you?

This a red herring.

Any so-called 'pressure' to release the patch is miniscule and brings nothing to bear by way of leverage. As you know, Carguy et al

But it neatly side-steps the point raised by Wolf Rider...that the initial release was due to public pressure. That assertion is total tripe.

The irony is that there has been pressure on for at least a year to release a working, workable product. This is just another merry diversion.

Blaming the customers for this debacle is so detached from reality it smacks of genius.

I haven't read it, but I'm agreeing that they won't release a patch due to public pressure. That won't stop people complaining though because the game is still on sale and people are still buying it. These are the people that are just finding out that the game is broken and have nowhere else to turn. I just think it's sad that these people are then ridiculed here with comments like whining and all the other bullcrap, simply because they have purchased something in good faith and want to complain because they have found out it's not working.

To me it is not about a mythical patch, it is about a broken game and broken promises that were listed all over the net...including in these forums...prior to me purchasing this game.


eg.. New 3D engine – Latest-gen graphics engine with DX10 and DX11 API support...????

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=18201

OLEG: Another reason we included the Su-26 is pilots from real aerobatic teams requested it. They used Il-2 for the training in the past. In Cliffs of Dover they can fly a real sport plane.

http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/02/08/il...ya-shevchenko/


Neither have appeared, 12 months after the release. If the project was so short on cash and wanted some money to continue, it would of been wiser to release it as a beta to people who Pre-Order and pay. I have done this on a number of games and accept the bugs and missing features.

Games are a lot more complex than they used to be and with that come bugs. I accept that a game will never be 100% free of them but the quality of this release was a total cock-up. And the people who keep asking for the patch to be with held until it is 100%....it ain't going to happen..... So, they are doing a master re-write and that will only end in tears, as again it will contain bugs. Small beta patches on a regular basis will be more efficient that a total re-write that expects to be fully functional...

I am not happy and will not be rushing to buy the next DLC on initial release. I probably will buy it, if this game ever stabilises but that will probably be when it is on special... thus cutting into the profit.

Good luck in the future... I don't like to see companies that produce games like these disappear... The market is too small as it is... but this must of done irreparable damage to consumer confidence and will affect the bottom line...

Now they can surround themselves with sycophants and go the way of all good governments/dictators/companies who do this... Or they can harden up and release it.....put up with well deserved criticism and work through the problems....

+1

Sure I can play that game. Again. And again.

So here goes.

There was plenty information on the initial fiasco of release from both russian forums aswell as folks overseas who bought the game. When CloD hit the shelves at stores near me (approx. April 10 2011) I already knew everything about the bugs when I bought it. I don`t see why anyone who doesn`t check the reviews (and they are devastating) should have the free pass onto registering here and flaming. Because that is what 90% of such people do. Besides bothering natural and neutral newcomers it is boring and has no constructive thought whatsoever. I can see why mods do not allow it. If you are unable or just do not want to be a wise or merely respectful critic, then you are free to complain on some other boards.

I`m sure that only a small minority of those complainers have even noticed that, besides of all the critics and flames, 1C`s product policy is catching up to them. Neutral fans won`t touch BoM until CloD is fixed. I`m starting to have second thoughts about getting it also. All that is needed is facts. A year after release this game still has serious show stoppers. IL2 did have such at the start, but not after a whole year. None of the devs flaming and needless refund threads were needed for this. None of this changed anything. People are quickly starting to lose any interest in this project which is the effect of 1C not being able to set their program straight.

Have you ever watched a film you have been told is bad and thought it was actually quite good? Now can you see how reviews don't tell us much at all? I bought the game when it first came out because I had followed it's development and trusted the development team to deliver what they had promised, I didn't need to look at the reviews because I took their word for it. Another person may have just walked into a shop or saw it online and thought, I'll have that, this sounds a blast after reading the back cover of the game.. Which by the way also promises so much. So to answer your question.. Do people have the right to complain? Yes I think I do because many will have listened to the developers or even read the back cover of the game promising so much. Had they were told it was still broken I don't think they would have purchased it do you?

DX11 API support is in game as advertised http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...t=31213&page=2

Features will come later if the sequel survives, project not cancelled and MG not closed (which is normal in business). Too early now for them http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...62&postcount=9

Carguy said:

>>I can play that game again. And again.<<

Well, try stopping it. Try answering the specific points instead.

>>There was plenty information on the initial fiasco of release from both russian forums aswell as folks overseas who bought the game.<<

You said it - 'initial fiasco of release'.

So - you should have to read endless forum reports to decide whether to buy a game, remembering that there are plenty of die-hard supporters embroidering and embellishing, making it very hard to distinguish truth from disingenuous clap-trap? And people's money is at stake. The silleer critics can be filtered out by the same token.

...but hold on, aren't we supposed to take something from the pre-reealse info of the devs and publishers themselves? Quite possibly. And if we do that we find a vacuum, then an eleventh hour 'half-of-it is missing' admission on the eve of release.

>>When CloD hit the shelves at stores near me (approx. April 10 2011) I already knew everything about the bugs when I bought it.<<

Good for you. And you still bought it despite it being a 'fiasco', in your own words? And so everyone else should do the same, including, presumably, those for whom web access is that much more restricted and/or difficult?

>>I don`t see why anyone who doesn`t check the reviews (and they are devastating) should have the free pass onto registering here and flaming. <<

It isn't flaming to be truthful, as has been said ad nauseum.

Either the was a fiasco or it wasn't. In your own words, it was. Surely that justifies some complaining? And if some idiots decide to go after those who complain, well bully for them. But it doesn't distract (ultimately) from what is happening - it simply takes a wee bit longer to deal with their ego and loyalty-as-excuse-for-attack. There are good loyal supporters also, who dont go after the critics as much.

The protecting-our-hobby brigade are not worth talking about.

>>Because that is what 90% of such people do. Besides bothering natural and neutral newcomers it is boring and has no constructive thought whatsoever. <<

Quite the opposite. It allows people to register their dissatisfaction, feel informed, and know what - if anything - is being done about it. All very real and natural actions and emotions that take place in all walks of life. Trying to stop it is beyond silly, and only results in more pressure being vented (as happens here). It is pointless, and fundamentally dishonest.

>>I can see why mods do not allow it. If you are unable or just do not want to be a wise or merely respectful critic, then you are free to complain on some other boards.<<

There we have it. Complain and you're not being wise and respectful. Don't and you are. Reductio ad absurdam. Or codswallop.

>>I`m sure that only a small minority of those complainers have even noticed that, besides of all the critics and flames, 1C`s product policy is catching up to them. <<

In what way? If you mean because many people feel badly let-down and badly treated, then good. That's the way of the world. People register dissatisfaction with a poor product, poor treatment. Good - let them. It doesn't mean you have to dismember the company making the product.

>>Neutral fans won`t touch BoM until CloD is fixed. I`m starting to have second thoughts about getting it also.<<

Neutral fans are just that - neutral. And should be allowed to read both sides.

>>All that is needed is facts. A year after release this game still has serious show stoppers.<<

Indeedy, so concentrate on them, and stop going after those who have constructive criticism or want to know if real fixes are likely to happen. In our lifetime.

>> IL2 did have such at the start, but not after a whole year. None of the devs flaming and needless refund threads were needed for this.<<

This isn't that. It's a whole panty-twisting bunch worse. Lot's of twisted panties. The critics realise this. Even some of the die-hard fans are beginning to realise this.

>>None of this changed anything. People are quickly starting to lose any interest in this project which is the effect of 1C not being able to set their program straight. <<

Absolutely.

And if the devs do set their program straight, good for them and we'll support them - if there are enough left to support them. But so far the indications are that they have botched everything from pre-release, to release, to post-release, to sequel announcement, to post-release patching.
There is only so much botching you can do before people call it a day.
Despite running apparently on empty, they still have residual goodwill, and people want to keep the genre going - which is good. Whether they are the company to do it, and whether they even *can* do it, is open to question.

If people want to complain, let them. Trying to stop the complaining just makes things worse.

Ben

Spot on

having a complain isn't the problem... the constant whinging is, the constant denigration of developers is though

+1 You reap what you sow

Exactly, the whining is annoying, therfore expect to get coplaints about it.

They Sugar Coat the Truth

Exactly again, a sugar coated truth is tastier than a rotten lie, much of the whinging is basically wild speculation or lies.

But a ctd is not a rotten lie im afraid. :(

Quite, nobody ever claimed it as a lie, the only lie is the one about 'everybody' getting ctd's.
either way, since everybody knows ctd's aren't a lie and are painfully aware of them, how many more times does it need mentioning? and I ask this as a person who does get the occasional ctd.

Bingo! S!

Not sure what the problem is here.. because the game does use DX10 'feature levels' and the game was programed using the DX11 API. Problem is at the time of release alot of the new DX11 'feature levels' were not that stable, thus 1C limited the 'feature levels' to DX10. That is the nice thing about the DX11 API, you can target previous (DX9 and DX10) 'feature levels'

Agreed 100%

Bongodriver said:

>>much of the whinging is basically wild speculation or lies<<

Not really, no.

But it allows you to parody it and go riding bareback into the desert called 'Defending the citadel of Clod' (bit of a mouthful for a desert name I think you'll agree) if you portray it this way.

And it deflects from the actual issues at hand, which is what much of this is about.

The more fanciful paranoias and flights of fancy are treated with fairly equal contempt by both sides, I would say. So no need to worry about them too much.

As for the 'he's calling the devs liars, he is! he is! teacher!' - well that's just low-life trying to get people bogged down and banned. And pathetic for all that.

But then this is what happens - you get into nonsense about arguing about the arguments - which this 'defend at all costs' segment of the fans tend to do. Best not to be fooled by this.

But the game itself, and its faults, have a nasty habit of drowning out the crap and meta-arguments, after a while, and bringing things back to the real issues i.e. how much is broken or not working properly, or not present.

In this respect not much has changed one year after release. Read into that what you will.

Ben

But i dont get it why would people be wasting there time on here whinging with false speculation and lies. Wouldnt they rather be out there getting some quality stick time in cus thats all i want to be doing. :confused:

The million dollar question, why exactly are people wasting precious time in their lives making futile complaints? does everybody know the game has problems?.....yes, do we need to be told now we know it?......no, are the devs working to a solution?......yes, is there anything else the devs can do to fix the initial problem?.......no, do all the whiners keep comparing COD against ROF as a shining example of what a sim should be?........yes, do all these people get their quality stick time in on ROF while waiting for the COD fix?..........no.

Can anybody here claim to have never seen a ctd in their life before COD? since I have had a PC I have had CTD's blue screens, HD's, GFX cards, RAM, fans, power packs all porked, yet for some reason people are trying to convince us that the COD devs are the inventors of the 'memory leak' and CTD and all known problems with their technology, neither is COD the first game I ever bought in a bad state on release, yet again people are trying to have us believe this didn't happen before COD, the COD devs are not the first I have experienced to be reticent on progress updates, just about every Half life game has been released by surprise and had bugs to boot, but for some reason people are trying to convince us the COD devs are in cahoots with Satan.

Blue screens? have you been on some naughty websites waiting for the clod patch?

I got a blue screen crash on RoF last night. I don't plan to spend the next 6 months complaining about it on their message board.

You don't know what a blue screen is?

Bongodriver said:

>>Can anybody here claim to have never seen a ctd in their life before COD? <<

Rhetorical, I assume.

...but as many times as Clod...?

>>since I have had a PC I have had CTD's blue screens, HD's, GFX cards, RAM, fans, power packs all porked, yet for some reason people are trying to convince us that the COD devs are the inventors of the 'memory leak' and CTD and all known problems with their technology, neither is COD the first game I ever bought in a bad state on release,<<

Who is this mysterious sect?

And how many games ahve you bought that were as bad as Clod on release? Honestly....? And not just bad o rbarely a barely functioning alpha, but with as many missing features...?

Ver, very few, I would bet.

>> yet again people are trying to have us believe this didn't happen before COD, the COD devs are not the first I have experienced to be reticent on progress updates,<<

Where is this mysterious sect that said this? Hardly anyone by any chance....? More straw targets. When you can;t stick to the facts, invent ghost opposition, is that it?

>>just about every Half life game has been released by surprise and had bugs to boot, but for some reason people are trying to convince us the COD devs are in cahoots with Satan. <<

Ah, those mysterious 'people' again.

I dont much like bubonic plague either (those damned bubos...) but it's ot got much to do with this. Nor has your post.

It's a question of degree, as you well know.

Stop trying to imply that this was just 'slightly troubled' release, with a few problems commonly seen elsewhere. It isn't and it wasn't. It was breath-takingly bad.

Ben

It wasnt that good ben. :rolleyes:

hey, what can I say, I'm trying to be as fair as possible given the derangement on offer :) :-P

Ben

1) People made complaints because it wasn't so long ago that people here told them it was their computers and the game was all good. Those people have now turned this completely around because the developers have more or less admitted problems with the game after initially telling them how good it was. All this does is bring mistrust and you wonder why people are still complaining? They are complaining because they don't know what to believe anymore or who to believe. The other fact of the matter is that I'm afraid it's human nature to complain about things we don't like. People complained to me that it was raining last week, but did I tell them they are whinging about something I have heard about all my life..No.

The problem is that more than a few people who visit this forum are quite simply addicts. And because they cannot get the fix or the high they so desperately crave then they exhibit all manner of strange and disturbing behaviors. :-)

CoD isn't the worst ive seen, Fallout3 and Bioshock were 2 of the worst I ever had, I've been gaming for years and have had many more just as bad.

sect? who said anything about a sect? mysterious?......well I guess denial is expected from a member of the aforementioned 'people'

You know that expression 'I've forgotten more than you know'?....I think that one applies here, genuinely COD is not the worst in my experience, but all I am left with is my experience and not a comprehensive list of names written with the foresight of having to explain my experience at a future date.

Oh.....so am I inventing you right now? this isn't happening, when I post this reply there won't be any evidence of a post by you?

Well I'm sure they have been called worse, but with respect I will still consider them to be people.

failed logic as my post is part of the subject matter being discussed.

I implied no such thing, again this is where your 'degree' is at fault, at no point have I 'ever' denied the problems with the game, I just found my 'breath' was not taken away due to my previous experience.

At least I won't stoop to the lower levels of accusing everyone of being 'derranged' if they don't see it my way.

Ah yes, a classic example of Bens 'sect' at work, slowly but surely they all start crowding round when they feel like they have someone trapped.
having run out of intelligent debate the slowly creeping attacks on credibility/sanity/intelligence are thrown in....any minute now I'm expecting the 'you can't educate pork' line.

True enough there were many people that had a much more positive experience of the game, which led many to believe the ones who were struggling must have had issues with hardware, better the devs made the admission after so long rather than denied it forever, but the admission was not made because people were being cry babies, there were more than likely enough constructive bug reports (you know...it's like complaining but without involving conspiracy theories and speculation)

if I ever find myself in a position in life where I don't know who to trust any more because I spent too much time on a forum then I will most likely cut the telephone wire.

so the rain last week is something you knew about all your life?

You know what, you just can't educate pork...no, really, you can't...

in fact, the pork is porked....

Bongodriver said:

>>Ben
At least I won't stoop to the lower levels of accusing everyone of being 'derranged' if they don't see it my way. <<

Humour. Lightening the atmosphere. See the smilies.

And again...in case you missed them...:) :-P

:!:

Ben

Hillarious..:grin:

I am on about people complaining about the weather all my life.. Moaning about the same things constantly, you know? I just don't let moaning effect me like some people do.

The other thing is someone else's complaint to sombody else is none of my business, so I certainly wouldn't accuse people of whining when it had nothing to do with me. I take it you are not part of the development team?

Your second point about trust has been over exaggerated.

Oh come on...sense of humour and all that?....leave the tinfoil (hat) on the chicken where it belongs....

or keep it for when your goose is cooked :)

Am I part of the dev team like?....nah bruv I aint innit.

it does seem to me you have some kind of aversion to people complaining about the weather, it sounds like it has got to you bad if you attribute it as a life long condition.

If someone is complaining to another in a private conversation then of course it is usually not the business of any third party, but here on the forums the complaints are just 'soap box' affairs intended for everyone to hear, why is it hard to accept some people wont like it.

My second point is what I intended it to sound like.

Stop....stop....youre cracking me up :grin:

oh did you not notice my smilie?....you know a smilie to make it seem all light hearted and all that.

ooh, you bitter old devil you :)

But I put a smilie....the one with the biggest grin too......

Agreed 100%

Bongodriver said:

>>the one with the biggest grin too...... <<

Since it appears that is about *all* you have :( ...you may as well make the most of it :)

No really stop! my sides are splitting with all your smilies....but I felt a little sad too for some reason.....oh wait you put a frownie there too....aaahhh you cheeky monkey you.

oops nearly forgot......:grin:

...now you're just aping the monkey, and still not on the money :grin::grin::grin:

aping? is that missing an 'r'? that would be apeing.

three smileys is too much but at least it amused you.:D

I was merely giving an example of someone moaning about the same thing over and over again, is that so hard to grasp? I also said it doesn't affect me because it's part of human nature to hear such things. I think it is you who has an aversion to people complaining about this game judging by your posts.

no news today to save you hitting f5
 

Just incase you don't read this thread http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...28174&page=128

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Where there is sayed that no news today:confused:

there is no news yet, that's how i understand that.

Bongodriver said:

>>aping? is that missing an 'r'? that would be apeing.<<

R u ok?

What's an 'r' between fiends...? :)

(happens to the best of us typing quickly, at least those of us using two hands....:) )

PotNoodles is correct btw

(and please come up with your own style)

luthier already said "We are in final stages of testing a thorough overhaul of the game’s graphic engine.

and that's all the news I need. :)

...yes that was 6 months ago, approx 180 days ago...these are the figures ! We need some info on how it is going now , what kind of problem they have encountered last week and what time scale roughly is needed for fixing that!

No news today [YET] to save you hitting f5
 

You are correct,no news YET,sorry i will try and redo the title,cheers :)
I guess that's the pessimist and the optimist views LOL.

I'm fine thanks, I just made the mistake of thinking you were smarter than you appear.

Oh another insult with a smilie......original.

of course potnoodles is correct in your eyes.

My own style? whose style am I using?