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Anton Yudintsev 08-04-2009 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by David603 (Post 87200)
I would like to see where this figure of 50,000 Russian POWs executed by the Polish comes from. Polish troops were given orders not to engage Soviet troops, and fighting was limited. As far as I know, the Polish did not capture any significant numbers of Russian troops, if any at all.

It was earlier, during Russian-Poland war.

David603 08-04-2009 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Anton Yudintsev (Post 87198)

I am writing a letter to moderator.
Bye.

This seems somewhat unfair. You asked me to find evidence, for the figures I quoted and I have attempted to do so. My figures come from books I own, not the internet, and I cannot provide links to these. The CIA report can be accessed by searching "the Katryn controversy", in www.cia.gov.

Anton Yudintsev 08-04-2009 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by guiltyspark (Post 87195)
the original poster meant a GERMAN campaign , not a nazi one

Yeah?
Please, read the tread's NAME.

versapak 08-04-2009 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by guiltyspark (Post 87195)
the original poster meant a GERMAN campaign , not a nazi one

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Originally Posted by H Lecter (Post 87199)
Well, it's hard to tell the difference 1938-1945...

Also...

Guiltyspark, the quote you are replying to has nothing to do with the original poster, and you can substitute the word Nazi in my post with the word German, and it doesn't change it one bit.

H Lecter 08-04-2009 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by guiltyspark (Post 87201)
dumbest thing i have ever heard

The men who fought in that war may not have been Nazis. The men who ordered this war were for sure.

And thanks for your civilized style of conversation. Thanks god I know better than to lower to this level.

David603 08-04-2009 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by versapak (Post 87191)
Why bother?


There is no Nazi campaign in this game, and there never will be. Regardless of whatever articles, facts, opinions, whatever... That has been answered and this ridiculous thread should be locked and left to die.

Trying to soften the evil of what the Nazis did by showing the evils of others is just plain stupid. What is your goal? Pointing your finger and the developer of this game saying your people were more evil than the Nazis so you should include a Nazi campaign?

Holy WTF? Get over it.

This has nothing to do with getting a German campaign added to Birds of Prey. The discussion may have started out that way but this is a different subject altogether.

Anton Yudintsev 08-04-2009 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by David603 (Post 87209)
This seems somewhat unfair.

Yeah, it is.
Denying Nazi's crimes, and denying Holoucast is something that violates the law.
Providing the links to artistic books, 'prooving' that USSR had commited war crimes during WW2 - is something that violates common sense, and should be pubished as well.
The world is unfair, and I think, that even first violation is enough to make you banned.
And I actually warned you.

But, I am not moderator. Probably, he won't do anything.

David603 08-04-2009 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Anton Yudintsev (Post 87214)
Yeah, it is.
Denying Nazi's crimes, and denying Holoucast is something that violates the law.
Providing the links to artistic books, 'prooving' that USSR had commited war crimes during WW2 - is something that violates common sense, and should be pubished as well.
The world is unfair, and I think, that even first violation is enough to make you banned.
And I actually warned you.

But, I am not moderator. Probably, he won't do anything.

You have definitely misunderstood what I intended to say. Perhaps I did not express my opinions fully enough. I do not deny the Holocaust happened, indeed I fully believe that more than 6 million Jews and other minority members died in concentration camps under Hitler. I do not deny the Nazi's commited many war crimes. I was simply asking for some balance, because all too often the eyes of the world are concentrated on Germanys war crimes alone, and ignore those commited by others.

I did not provide the link to said artistic book, you are confusing my posts with those of guiltyspark.

I withdrew the allegation that Russian troops committed widescale rape in countries they occupied, because the more I search the more I am convinced such instances were isolated, and condemmed by Russian authority. If you would like, I will edit that out of the original post.

Anton Yudintsev 08-04-2009 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by David603 (Post 87223)
I did not provide the link to said artistic book, you are confusing my posts with those of guiltyspark.

Sorry, but your links are not much better.
Some of them are propaganda at least.
Some are not related to _war_ crimes at all.

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I withdrew the allegation that Russian troops committed widescale rape in countries they occupied, because the more I search the more I am convinced such instances were isolated, and condemmed by Russian authority. If you would like, I will edit that out of the original post.
It will be just fine, if you'll stop discuss war crimes from now on :)
Your last post is much better than those one in the beginning.
Let's stop here.

gozorak 08-04-2009 08:15 PM

holocaust denial is thankfully not a violation of any US law...I dont think such lunacy should be made illegal and in this country thankfully we do have protections for even the most politically abhorant speech,,,which is a good thing because it makes it easier to tell who the morons are when they are denying the most obvious of historical facts.

All I want is to be able to sim an ME-163B through a formation of B-17's...that would be so cool..and its just a game...lol


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