Mapless Sim MP - that would be interesting!

cyclone70 · #1 10-08-2009, 03:41 PM

OK I can see why they did it - without the map you'd be flying about trying to find a needle in a haystack, but in a strange way it makes Sim more unrealistic than Realistic! I seem to spend half the game looking at the damn map trying to see who's friend or foe instead of looking through the cockpit glass.

Seem to have trouble seeing the coloured bands on the wings at certain positions to the sun too.

By the way, it was a immense pleasure being on Chankychank's team last night. The man dominated. I thought I'd just go off and land and have a cup of tea at one point! But I soldiered on and finished with a score of err... I'd rather not publish that.

XBL: cyclone70

Ancient Seraph · #2 10-08-2009, 03:45 PM

I've been thinking about it a while. The main problem is it'll be impossible to find anyone when you just spawned, or at any time you don't see anyone for that matter. I did read somewhere that in Air Warrior you'd disappear from the radar below a certain altitude, this could be nice. Or make fuzzy gray blips, so it won't be as easy to identify everyone.

Benrizz · #3 10-08-2009, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by cyclone70

By the way, it was a immense pleasure being on Chankychank's team last night. The man dominated. I thought I'd just go off and land and have a cup of tea at one point! But I soldiered on and finished with a score of err... I'd rather not publish that.

XBL: cyclone70

That man was a hawk... Personnally I just landed and drinked a beer at the Officer Mess. and I watched on TV, Chankychank "The Butcher of Dover" playnig with the other team.

Well next game I was against him and you Cyclone..... He needed 2sec to shot down a plane.

That man does have explosive bullets or what ??

PS: Finally I got you two times during the last game Cyclone

Edit: I Hope He will join that forum so I can ask him 2 or 3 questions

MorgothNL · #4 10-08-2009, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by cyclone70

OK I can see why they did it - without the map you'd be flying about trying to find a needle in a haystack, but in a strange way it makes Sim more unrealistic than Realistic! I seem to spend half the game looking at the damn map trying to see who's friend or foe instead of looking through the cockpit glass.

Seem to have trouble seeing the coloured bands on the wings at certain positions to the sun too.

XBL: cyclone70

Like ancient seraph said.It will be impossible to spot people. Maybe it could be done after the update, when there is no longer an 'plane invisible range'.

In PC IL-2 the games were also without icons on the map. But there youhad to take of and land. And both teams had airstrips on opposite sides. So you knew they would be either above your airstrip,taking of from theirs, or in between.

In BOP the maps are hudge, and there is no real reason for anyone to be like 'I wanna fly on this part of the map'. Try finding your 4 enemies in a 50x50km map.not doable

cyclone70 · #5 10-08-2009, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Benrizz

Well next game I was against him and you Cyclone..... He needed 2sec to shot down a plane.

That man does have explosive bullets or what ??

PS: Finally I got you two times during the last game Cyclone

Yeah I remember that, maybe I'll just use a P-51 in future so I can blame my tools!

XBL: cyclone70

InfiniteStates · #6 10-08-2009, 04:42 PM

I really don't like the idea of a mapless sim. Yes, it's unrealistic, but until you can see planes as well as real life it would render the game to tedious to play IMO.

I really like AncientSeraph's idea of fuzzing the blips, maybe based on the target's altitude, or your distance to the target...?

cyclone70 · #7 10-08-2009, 04:52 PM

I suppose it would be a bit like...

Teammate 1
I can't find you. Where Are you?

Teammate 2
I don't know

Teammate 1
Have you got a reference point?

Teammate 2
I'm over a greeny brown field...
Square shaped, with trees around it

Teammate 1
Oh I know the one - thanks!

Benrizz · #8 10-08-2009, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by cyclone70

I suppose it would be a bit like...

Teammate 1
I can't find you. Where Are you?

Teammate 2
I don't know

Teammate 1
Have you got a reference point?

Teammate 2
I'm over a greeny brown field...
Square shaped, with trees around it

Teammate 1
Oh I know the one - thanks!

Lol, I guess it will force us to fly in formation.......

PS: Last time I flew in formation it was on Battlefield 1942, And My mate and I got shot down by a single bandit who sneaked behind us. From that time, I'm a lonely wolf

dazz1971 · #9 10-08-2009, 05:23 PM

well i have a hard enough time finding the other team as it is without taking the map away from me too if im playing a sim match im sat about 1 foot away from tv with me specs on lol

P-51 · #10 10-08-2009, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dazz1971

well i have a hard enough time finding the other team as it is without taking the map away from me too if im playing a sim match im sat about 1 foot away from tv with me specs on lol

i always make my 19" tv feel like its 49" when playing this game