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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 10-11-2012, 01:12 PM
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Chris Roberts will hire a capable dev team to make 'Star Citizen'... these are his figures to make a decent game.
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Old 10-11-2012, 02:46 PM
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This is ridiculous. Salaries are 3-4 times smaller in similar positions in the gaming industry in Russia.
Really?
You have programmers who work for $20k?
That's rather depressing, I'd leave the country ASAP.

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Luthier did mention it was difficult to find competent programmers.
lol, no wonder.

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Old 10-11-2012, 02:51 PM
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Really?
You have programmers who work for $20k?
That's rather depressing, I'd leave the country ASAP.
Yes, 28-33K is a normal salary for the average programmer in Russia.
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Old 10-11-2012, 04:03 PM
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Really?
That's rather depressing, I'd leave the country ASAP.
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Old 10-11-2012, 04:26 PM
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bad press ruined the sales, in the end many complaints were system related.

LOL! Thanks Slip...I haven't laughed that hard in awhile. Yes...many of the hard core flight sim crowd "forgot" how to use a computer and what it takes to run a flight sim.<sigh>

Bad press didn't ruin the sales....it's the worst release in flight sim history that caused the sales to be bad. The bad press was(and still is) justified.
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Old 10-11-2012, 04:59 PM
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Old 10-11-2012, 06:28 PM
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How about communication with the customers? Rise of flight has it and that game is still going strong!
RoF's commnication was exceedigly poor until Jason became involved. Not sure if it's a cultural thing or a business difference between countries.
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Old 10-11-2012, 06:39 PM
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Yes, 28-33K is a normal salary for the average programmer in Russia.
I have read its much cheaper to live in Russia, not taxed to death.

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LOL! Thanks Slip...I haven't laughed that hard in awhile. Yes...many of the hard core flight sim crowd "forgot" how to use a computer and what it takes to run a flight sim.<sigh>

Bad press didn't ruin the sales....it's the worst release in flight sim history that caused the sales to be bad. The bad press was(and still is) justified.

Your welcome, but think back a minute, people like to read reviews on-line before buying. Not saying the game didn't need work. I'm convinced Steam was a big part of the game freezing up.
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Old 10-11-2012, 07:37 PM
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I have read its much cheaper to live in Russia, not taxed to death.
Yes, it's a good money even for the life in Moscow.
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Old 10-11-2012, 11:40 PM
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It didnt sell well because it was universally panned and they are still diddling around with fixing things a year and a half down the road, creating new problems as they fix old one. Why should this surprise anyone but fanboys?
I LOVE a good flight sim....but the operative word is "good". This thing has just worn me out..Im done with it for now.
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