Game Hurricane is 534 lbs overweight

[Friendly_flyer]

I'm amazed at the research Gents, do go on!

[JtD]

Originally Posted by *Buzzsaw*

I am not sure if you have more information, not suggesting you are incorrect, I had assumed the reference to the windscreen was to an bulletproof glass one, why else would they mention it, and the fact it was flush? The original bulletproof windscreens were fitted to the outside and protruded.

And I think because these bullet proof windshields were around, they found it necessary to mention that this was not installed on this aircraft. They also state that it is only the fuel tank armour that is different to L1547, which they tested earlier, and L1547 definitely had no armoured windscreen, as can be seen in the picture on the site. Also, the "early production" type windscreen as such was not armoured, and flush. To my knowledge, the Hurricane was never equipped with flush armoured windscreens, but then I might just not have seen it, yet.

[Kurfürst]

Originally Posted by NZtyphoon

And where did a weight of 12.1 kg for the light alloy plating come from?

From a detailed report.

That the 8mm thick 109E "armour" weighed only 46 kg indicates that it was not armour plate, which would have weighed considerably more, but probably a toughened alloy of some kind, or a sandwich of armour and alloy.

You are simply wrong.

Then we have the usual assertion of how bad British methods were cf the uber German...

Well the British method was to put relatively low thickness armor plates in a lot of places, which were useful when you were shooted at with non-AP munition or by German bombers. Unfortunately the thickness used on British fighters (4.5 mm back plate, 6.2mm head plate) was only marginally effective when shot at by even 7.92mm AP munition.

[NZtyphoon]

Originally Posted by Kurfürst

From a detailed report.



You are simply wrong.



Well the British method was to put relatively low thickness armor plates in a lot of places, which were useful when you were shooted at with non-AP munition or by German bombers. Unfortunately the thickness used on British fighters (4.5 mm back plate, 6.2mm head plate) was only marginally effective when shot at by even 7.92mm AP munition.

Which report?

Prove it - show us the evidence this was armour plate.

Prove it.

[Kurfürst]

For you?

[Hood]

Messerschmitt - Aircraft & Legend - Nowarra

E1 - 2010kg empty, 2505kg All-up weight

E3 - 2060kg empty, 2610 All-up weight


Nothing to do with the Hurri weight though.

Hood

[JG52Uther]

So this is a bug yes? Has it been reported in the relevent thread?

[NZtyphoon]

Originally Posted by Kurfürst

For you?

Clearly Kf has no evidence for his assertions, so they can be discounted, as per usual.

In the meantime the Hurricane is seriously overweight.

[JG52Uther]

So, some of you have decided to take a perfectly acceptable thread, about a possible bug in the game, and turn it in to the usual back and forth point scoring arguments.
On that note, if its a bug, put it in the the bug thread.

[*Buzzsaw*]

Salute

Please limit the discussion to the Overweight/Underweight issues raised.

JG52_Uther has kindly unlocked the thread at my request after locking it previously.

Please feel free to contribute information on the accurate weights of these aircraft.

In particular, anyone with information on 109E4 weights.