Speaking of Guns...

Outlaw · #1 08-09-2012, 04:03 PM

I'm thinking of buying one of Arsenal Inc's Saiga based AKs (either 47 or 74 - I haven't decided yet).

Has anyone here ever owned/fired one of these?

--Outlaw.

ctec1 · #2 08-09-2012, 10:24 PM

Dont own one nor have I fired one but a while back someone did a comparison video on youtube between the Arsenal and the Vepr. They also had a video shot at the range with some comments. You may want to take a look at those if you can find them. Might have been by CivilianTactical.

CWMV · #3 08-10-2012, 02:21 AM

I do actually have experience with them and Ill tell you this: Not worth what they what for them.

Now the question is what do you want it for, just to own an AK or for a specific purpose?
A lot of times people overlook the simple WASR, but its just as much if not more of an AKM than the Arsenal.

Your best bet, buy the Saiga in the caliber you desire and convert it yourself. Ive done two of them. For the money you save you could buy a few thousand rounds to go with your new rifle, and have gained a lot of experience and know-how with the AK platform.

But again I ask what will the rifle be used for?
If its a SHTF gun, then 7.62x39. Its the round that all others are judged by on the modern battlefield.
If its just going to be a fun range toy then the 74 for sure. Ammo is STUPID cheap. I mean I stocked up on it a year ago and the price hasnt gone up at all. Only thing cheaper is 7.62x54R.
x39 is actually becoming hard to find on the cheap. I just bought my last 5000 rounds of the Yugo M67 ammo. It seems that the supplier says they will not be importing any more of it.

swiss · #4 08-10-2012, 06:27 PM

Aren't the Romanian AKs the way to go?

Sternjaeger II · #5 08-10-2012, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by swiss

Aren't the Romanian AKs the way to go?

I haven't heard much good about any firearm coming from there, most of them were used with low military grade ammo, and the combination of corrosive powder together with the poor maintenance means they're all a bit knackered.. Then again considering that the last thing you need in an AK is accuracy beyond 100yds..

Sternjaeger II · #6 08-10-2012, 06:35 PM

To be honest the only great thing about AKs are the gas system mechanism and the 7.62x39 ammo, other than that they're just cheapo ordinary assault rifles, which again, don't get me wrong, do their job fantastically

An AR-15 with the AK gas recovery mechanism is probably a good compromise, but then again I've never been a huge fan of the .223 :-/

swiss · #7 08-10-2012, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

I haven't heard much good about any firearm coming from there, most of them were used with low military grade ammo, and the combination of corrosive powder together with the poor maintenance means they're all a bit knackered.. Then again considering that the last thing you need in an AK is accuracy beyond 100yds..

So, which country builds the best AKs?
The Chinese ones suck too, did the Yugos ever build them?

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Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

An AR-15 with the AK gas recovery mechanism is probably a good compromise, but then again I've never been a huge fan of the .223 :-/

you could as well go for a SIG, they are precise but heavy. PITA if you ask me unless it's a commando version.