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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 10-02-2012, 09:01 PM
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it's not a major bug, check 1:08



aerobatic routines are made by exasperated manoeuvres normally, but you can easily get a controlled spin going with a high performance aerobatic aeroplane. I can't tell from the video whether you had any throttle in, but if you did then it's quite plausible cos you're keeping the rudder in a strong slipstream, if not then yes, that's a bit of a bug. The sink rate is probably a bit too generous (the stall speed for these beasties is around 57kts), but bear in mind that you have quite a generous symmetrical profile wing surface and control surfaces and rudders in particular are VERY efficient in this family of aerobatic aircraft. The Su-26 can really hang from the propeller and hover there, so yes, extreme aerobatics are achievable.

I haven't tried the new plane yet, but I'd be more concerned about stuff torque effects and gyroscopic precession. Do you have any of that?
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Old 10-02-2012, 09:22 PM
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From 1:30 the Su-26 is hanging by the prop:



The Su-26 is a crazy plane, and even though it looks a bit wrong in the original poster's vid I think that when you reach these extremes of flight any sim is struggling to completely faithfully model the reality of flight "at the edge of the envelope". It would take a Cray supercomputer (probably churning through data for a night and not rendering in real-time) to totally correctly model the ultra-chaotic Mandelbrot world of aerodynamics...
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Old 10-02-2012, 09:23 PM
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This is why ntil now they didnt release Su26. It is unserious FM.
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Old 10-02-2012, 09:26 PM
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My Su-26 can do amazing things in CloD!!!

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Old 10-02-2012, 09:29 PM
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BTW I saw the Su-26 myself at Le Bourget in the early 00's and couldn't believe it when it hung by the prop for more than a minute like a helicopter, with no loss of alt.
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Old 10-02-2012, 09:31 PM
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I saw same in Toronto with a P 51 pilot. Zoom climb, hang there forever. Awesum. In Cliffs of Dover u can also do it in the Stuka.
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Old 10-02-2012, 09:33 PM
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must have been a modded P-51 then?
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Old 10-02-2012, 09:35 PM
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must have been a modded P-51 then?
No, he came down from alt with huge momentum, zoomed up, hung like grapes on a vine, fell off onto one wing, no spin, perfect recovery.
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Old 10-02-2012, 09:49 PM
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Wait a minute this is very easy to explain. You see in soviet russia we already have this technology. It's called rudder vectoring.

Heh I was messing around with this last night and was doing the same thing. I wish I could do that in the fighter. That would be awesome!
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Old 10-02-2012, 10:14 PM
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Wait a minute this is very easy to explain. You see in soviet russia we already have this technology. It's called rudder vectoring.

Heh I was messing around with this last night and was doing the same thing. I wish I could do that in the fighter. That would be awesome!
Doc, are you sure your not talking about thrust vectoring

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