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Old 10-06-2012, 09:39 PM
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like i already said ( not once) i proud to be communicate with you guys... and i hope that i will become a worthy member of your Dteam ))))
Many thanks for your wonderful work on this plane, that is great work! thanks to bringing to life the SB.
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Old 10-06-2012, 10:32 PM
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i've do what i can ...
and not only i ... i work not in loneliness ... SB we made with my friend Zlovred ...

but it only half (or may be less then half of work) rest of part of work was do Great Guys from DT ...

to us DT was like inspirer ... and Great Supporter ...

we are very grateful to they
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Old 10-06-2012, 10:48 PM
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DT has started as a mix (about 50:50) of former 1C/MG third party modellers and AAA modders that wanted to continue working on IL-2 in a different way than it has been established on AAA. Simple as that. We did not want to go against the owner of the game but offered a direct non-commercial cooperation to him. We have agreed to the limitations that were linked to such agreement. Basically, we need to be consistent and legal in the development of our patches.

Patch 4.09 content has been produced completely by DT, and just compiled by 1C. Everything after 4.09 has been done by DT only including compilation and release.

Just one note: Nobody in DT is playing "gods", but we do get irritated when we are publicly requested / pushed to do things we have stated we can not and will not do for reasons described above. DT's objectives has been clearly stated back in 2009. And we have proposed external cooperation right in the interview. You can read the public interview here: http://www.simhq.com/_air13/air_420a.html

BTW, Sita you have been one of those who has cooperated with us directly and now your fantastic cockpit of SB-2 is coded into 4.12. Thank you.

I hope I have answered your question.
Just the answer I was looking for. Thanks
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Old 10-07-2012, 01:17 PM
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i've do what i can ...
and not only i ... i work not in loneliness ... SB we made with my friend Zlovred ...

but it only half (or may be less then half of work) rest of part of work was do Great Guys from DT ...

to us DT was like inspirer ... and Great Supporter ...

we are very grateful to they
Definitely a great job and a great service both of you provided in putting together the content you have. Keep it up!
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Old 10-09-2012, 12:54 AM
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I remember well those early days and how uncertain things were for so may. From where I sit it seems that a lot of the voices of reason within the AAA group moved to TD and HSFX..

I am just very grateful that they are here and that they were able to work with Oleg & 1C.
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Old 10-15-2012, 11:37 PM
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DT has started as a mix (about 50:50) of former 1C/MG third party modellers and AAA modders that wanted to continue working on IL-2 in a different way than it has been established on AAA. Simple as that. We did not want to go against the owner of the game but offered a direct non-commercial cooperation to him. We have agreed to the limitations that were linked to such agreement. Basically, we need to be consistent and legal in the development of our patches.

Patch 4.09 content has been produced completely by DT, and just compiled by 1C. Everything after 4.09 has been done by DT only including compilation and release.

Just one note: Nobody in DT is playing "gods", but we do get irritated when we are publicly requested / pushed to do things we have stated we can not and will not do for reasons described above. DT's objectives has been clearly stated back in 2009. And we have proposed external cooperation right in the interview. You can read the public interview here: http://www.simhq.com/_air13/air_420a.html

BTW, Sita you have been one of those who has cooperated with us directly and now your fantastic cockpit of SB-2 is coded into 4.12. Thank you.

I hope I have answered your question.
Is there any chance of us lowly plebs seeing that agreement?
I for one would be interested in the terms of reference with which you are not playing god and with clayless feet
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Old 10-16-2012, 06:30 PM
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DT has started as a mix (about 50:50) of former 1C/MG third party modellers and AAA modders that wanted to continue working on IL-2 in a different way than it has been established on AAA.
Just a little correction.Expression "AAA modders" should not be taken literally , some of the DT founding members were just a regular members of that forum but at the same time they were members of many other forums so you could equally say "UBI modders" , "CWOS modders" or whatever. Closest to the truth would be to say that some of the DT members were involved in modding but without particular affiliation.

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Is there any chance of us lowly plebs seeing that agreement?
I for one would be interested in the terms of reference with which you are not playing god and with clayless feet
You can't see it, business' contracts are not public matter.
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Old 10-17-2012, 03:19 AM
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They are doing a pretty poor job giving it all away for free.
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Just fix the friggin thing you boof heads. It's getting boring now. Only 11 people on the whole thing. Yawn.
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Old 10-17-2012, 08:40 AM
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Thank you that breathed life in to the SB

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Old 10-18-2012, 10:35 PM
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You can't see it, business' contracts are not public matter.
Now I am confused. Does TD have a contract with 1C or an Agreement?

In order to have a contract with another party, TD must be a registered business, charity, other legal entity or be an individual acting in proxy for TD

To my simple mind, that seems like a bunch of very complex options with various legal connotations that could leave individuals open to personal liabilities from disgruntled customers. (I am merely stating an opinion here, please do not use this as a excuse to delete another of my posts!)

On the other hand, an Agreement between a collection of well meaning individuals (such as TD) and a corporate body (such as 1C) could easily be shared in the public domain (such as every EULA one has ever clicked "Agreed" to) without any problem.

TD has a worrying habit, in my personal opinion, of aggressively attacking anyone who dares to question their intellectual supremacy and an ongoing refusal to explain the data they use, their interpretation of it and the justification of the changes they make based upon it.

Other than that they are awesome
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