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09-08-2012, 04:09 PM
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Cornering speeds for CLoD Aircraft?
With this definition:
Cornering Speed: "The lowest air speed at which a fighter can obtain the structural or aerodynamic limiting G force." In the "dogfight" situation, this is the speed I'm trying to maintain in order to "out-turn" an adversary. It's also the speed above which I must excercise caution to prevent "Over-G" damage. Below this speed I must remain "Stall vigilant. Is there a central location where the cornering speeds of CLoD aircraft can be found? I'm in love with the Spitfire MKII, so that would be a good starting point... 
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09-08-2012, 04:46 PM
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Someone recently posted the doghouse plot for a Spit.. or was it a 109? I forget, but I think that is what your looking for.
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09-08-2012, 04:56 PM
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I'm afraid I've never heard of "Dog House" plot. In the Air Force, we had "V-G" (Velocity-Accelleration) diagrams which may be similar. Although V-G diagrams would be really nice, I only want a general cornering velocity that I can always shoot for when the enemy is after me. I'm a big believer in KISS...(Keep it simple, stupid).
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09-08-2012, 04:57 PM
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A rose by any other name!
 Sad thing is This kind of testing (turn rates) was not part of the formal testing (read typical testing) during WWII. That is to say you may find a few real world data test repots on a few planes but not all.  I do have these graphs for the IL-2 1946 planes here http://www.flightsimtesting.com Problem is right now I am updating my website for CoD, so many of the IL-2 planes (aka the data base) are not loaded right now. When fully loaded there are some 600+ planes listed
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That being a pilots's 'perception' of what is going on can be very different from what is 'actually' going on. Last edited by ACE-OF-ACES; 09-08-2012 at 05:02 PM.
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09-08-2012, 11:39 PM
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Dog house or Fan plot. Here is one for the BF109E3 cv Spit I. Zero Climb line represents Sustained perf (Ps=0)
In the end the subject of corner speeds in COD is rather moot since Structural G is not modelled so in effect the limiting values are either Lift limit into Black out threshold.  
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#6
09-09-2012, 12:50 AM
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nice!
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Theres a reason for instrumenting a plane for test..
That being a pilots's 'perception' of what is going on can be very different from what is 'actually' going on.
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