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[Sita]

Hello once again ...

with huge help from one great person from SOH forum (www.sim-outhouse.com)
( directly this http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...fans-!/page50& )

i start another thing ... i think would be great to finish line with Dacotas family ... i mean ... we have now Li2 and L2D .. and for US need C47 ...

so i started working ...



for now it's firts attempt ... alot of work in perspective ... and as always i need your help guys ...

here is the thing ... i didn't have all needed gauges to make C47 right ... i don't want take gauges from B25 ... because it's not all similar with C47 1942 year...

so if anybody can help me with findings of old gauges for C47, it would be great! ...

i need gauges from that scheme ...




here some of it in reality ...















most of that gauges i find in Lockheed Electra .. with lovely Amelia







but i hope that somebody can find more useable pict to make gauges from it ...


and i want again say words of gratitude to man who help me with information for DC-3 ...
Javis! ... Thank you Very MUCH!!!

[Jeremiah_Weed]

Howdy, Sita.
Here's a pilot training video I found on YouTube that has some close-ups of some of the gauges and controls. Also mentions some flight procedures that are interesting:
(Also found the US Navy had versions R4D-1 thru R4D-8. Similar cockpit layout?)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=sA_N10PQtl0

[Sita]

Originally Posted by Jeremiah_Weed

Howdy, Sita.
Here's a pilot training video I found on YouTube that has some close-ups of some of the gauges and controls. Also mentions some flight procedures that are interesting:
(Also found the US Navy had versions R4D-1 thru R4D-8. Similar cockpit layout?)

Thanks) it's really interesting video)

[Marabekm]

This is EXCITING news.

Can't wait to possibly fly the gooney bird. Now in the manual for Pacific Fighters vaguely goes over supply missions in the online campaign section. Anyone have any idea how to build these? I figure if I can get started now, might have it figured out when C-47 is flyable.

[Pursuivant]

Sita,

My offer stands to take photos of the C-47 at my local air museum.

PM me with interior photos, etc. that you still need.

I've held back because I'm not sure that the cockpit instruments are still original - many modifications made to bring nav systems and radio up to 21st century standards. But, there might still be some original stuff that will help.

[Pursuivant]

This site might have what you need:

http://www.propellor.tv/C47%20instrument%20panel.html

The restorer claims that the panel and placards are WW2 vintage.

The instruments in the panel might not be 1942 vintage, but they're close enough. My understanding is that there were very few US manufacturers of cockpit instruments (Bendix, Sperry, General Electric, Honeywell, Delco, and a few others) and they all made instruments to USAAF or USN standards.

I'm not sure if you intend to model them, but here is a decent picture of the C-47 radio operator station:

http://www.jsu.edu/socialwork/fredfa...nside_C-47.jpg

Not so great picture of the navigator position:

http://www.jsu.edu/socialwork/fredfa...ide_C-47_2.jpg

[KG26_Alpha]

Can't find a specific 1942 pit layout as there's so many variants around of this aircraft's cockpit
unless you have blueprints and actual panel layouts It could be quite a task finding the data you want.

Link below might be useful for other projects as well as some info on DC3 panel

http://spitfirespares.co.uk/instruments%2021.html

Pre restoration video,
not much help but might be of use in other areas

www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tRx1yIpRf8

[Pursuivant]

Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha

Can't find a specific 1942 pit layout as there's so many variants around of this aircraft's cockpit

Due to its extensive post-WW2 use, there have been many modifications to the cockpits of most C-47s. Mostly modern navigation and radio gear, but sometimes more extensive changes.

In many ways, it would be more appropriate to have a later war variant of the C-47, since US aircraft production really expanded in 1943-44. That might also make it easier to find pictures of unmodified cockpits, since more of the later production aircraft are preserved as static museum exhibits.

[Sita]

Thanks Guys for info and reply ...

i based that pit on Techical description for export variant C-47 of 1942 year ... and trying to make it without any modern equipment ...

[Pursuivant]

Originally Posted by Sita

i based that pit on Techical description for export variant C-47 of 1942 year ... and trying to make it without any modern equipment ...

That's a good reason to look for 1942 cockpit views, then!

But, I'm afraid that you might have made things harder for yourself, since US aircraft supplied to the UK and its Commonwealth Allies were often fitted with US-made versions of RAF instruments. I don't know if this was true for the Dakota I, however.