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Old 11-10-2012, 04:02 PM
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Default No -Cold Start Ups after Oct'12 patch.

Hi All,

Is there something I can edit to get back to having to start up from cold again.

It was frustrating, so I can imagine why they took it out, but I loved it.
With full realism on, You had to coax your engine to life and warm it up.

The bombers would fly overhead, and you still had to wait on the ground getting the engine right.

Now every mission starts with the engine running, warmed up, radiator open.

Can I get it back how it was?

Thanks,

-Dave Decay

PS this specifically applies to the GB campaign, I havent checked anything else.

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Old 11-11-2012, 12:34 AM
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Theres a reason for instrumenting a plane for test..
That being a pilots's 'perception' of what is going on can be very different from what is 'actually' going on.
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Old 11-11-2012, 12:46 AM
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Probable due people "whining" - failed to take off with Blenheim in the mission "Cross country" that began with the engines OFF in previous firts versions of game, some feature are "tuned down".

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Old 11-11-2012, 10:04 AM
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Hi All,

Is there something I can edit to get back to having to start up from cold again.

It was frustrating, so I can imagine why they took it out, but I loved it.
With full realism on, You had to coax your engine to life and warm it up.

The bombers would fly overhead, and you still had to wait on the ground getting the engine right.

Now every mission starts with the engine running, warmed up, radiator open.

Can I get it back how it was?

Thanks,

-Dave Decay

PS this specifically applies to the GB campaign, I havent checked anything else.

Win 7 i5 16GB ram nVidia560Ti
logitech extreme 3d joy
Saitek Yoke&Throttle
Saitek Rudder
TrackIR 5
You are a very strange person who may be in need of help.

Personally I like the 'almost warm' engines. In RL the ground crew would have been kept warm for pilots on standby (and aren't we all?). But I fly on-line, not off-line.
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Old 11-11-2012, 11:54 AM
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Open the missions in the FMB, select the player's flight which is marked with a flag. Under group properties make sure the box next to Spawn Parked is checked. Save and exit. Plane will now start with cold engine.
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Old 11-11-2012, 01:57 PM
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Open the missions in the FMB, select the player's flight which is marked with a flag. Under group properties make sure the box next to Spawn Parked is checked. Save and exit. Plane will now start with cold engine.
Perfect...

Some people blame this amazing sim and don't try to understand things!

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Old 11-11-2012, 06:06 PM
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Hi All,

Is there something I can edit to get back to having to start up from cold again.

It was frustrating, so I can imagine why they took it out, but I loved it.
With full realism on, You had to coax your engine to life and warm it up.

The bombers would fly overhead, and you still had to wait on the ground getting the engine right.

Now every mission starts with the engine running, warmed up, radiator open.

Can I get it back how it was?

Thanks,

-Dave Decay

PS this specifically applies to the GB campaign, I havent checked anything else.

Win 7 i5 16GB ram nVidia560Ti
logitech extreme 3d joy
Saitek Yoke&Throttle
Saitek Rudder
TrackIR 5
You are kidding me right? It was extremely unrealistic before with regard to engine management and startup. I also suspect you might be in need of special help?

There is no such 'bug' with the real aircraft where you had to have the throttle accurate to the nearest 1%, mixture on lean and have the engine stupidly splutter forever. Come on, engine on lean mixture to start up? Ridiculous. Sorry to break the news but it was extremely unrealistic before, now it is fixed.

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Old 11-12-2012, 03:51 AM
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@notafinger: Hans Gruber

Thank you for your Prompt. Polite, Helpful and Accurate response.

-Dave

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I have no experience of cold starting airplanes beyond the usual trainers: Piper, Cessna and Jabiru.

But I assume the game designers do their best to model engine management as accurately as possible within their limitations.*

A mid-seventies vintage Piper Warrior on a cold morning in Bendigo can be pretty fussy to start. The in-game Cold Start modelling seemed about the right amount of stuffing around.

- Dave

* My mind boggles thinking about the limitations that game designers might face.
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