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Old 03-27-2011, 09:54 PM
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Default My take on CoD - UBI and 1C dropped the ball on this one

I don't want to sound overly negative, but here is my initial feelings on this game:

I am so glad now I bought this game on yuplay.com today, because I have now cancelled my preorder on Steam and I saved 35 euros of money.
My computer is i7 920 2.7ghz, 12gb ram, ati radeon hd5850.

First of all to get realistic here, I think this "add a line to conf.ini to remove epilepsy filter" is just a placebo and rumor - i do not see ANY difference on the performance, and I have really looked into this thing. We don't know how much this filter is affecting the performance, it is possible that the real performance problems are elsewhere.

The game runs well when you are flying alone over the canal with other planes in the distance. No problems in fps there. However, when you approach a plane, the FPS will drop down to something that reminds me of a slideshow. Also flying over cities is very uncomfortable, game starts stuttering alot, sometimes it runs okayish, sometimes the fps gets really down. Overall the FPS varies constantly and a lot.
I have tried various different graphics settings, but it is strange that it doesn't seem to make such a big difference. From mid-to low settings the result is quite the same. Good fps when no activity around. When a plane comes near it goes down to hell.Lots of visual bugs in the game, I don't know about the actual gameplay as in current state it is so unplayable that I cant get into it.

Another reality here. I am quite disappointed into the graphics to be honest. It looks outdated to me (well I just started to play crysis 2, which runs perfect on my machine on 100% gfx settings, so maybe I am bias here.) Now, it doesn't look ugly, the water and clouds look good to me, but the cities, the ground there is something about it that reminds me of older simulation games.

If you ask my opinion about this game? It might be a good game in 6 months after various updates. There has been A LOT of detail been put into game obviously. However the sad thing is that it is quite hard to see yet where has 6 years of development put into. And looking into the game world in these days, it is quite dangerous to release a game SUCH half-baked. Seriously guys, this is a pre-beta version of a game. UBI should not have been releasing this now. This is THE "Silent Hunter 5" of flight sims. It is gonna be crushed in reviews and I don't know how many people, except fans, are going to buy this game after?

So I have a feeling that UBI and 1C has dropped the ball on this one. 1C would have needed another year of development time. But for the flightsim fans, there will be alot to enjoy, but it will take time for sure to get the ball rolling.

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Old 03-27-2011, 10:01 PM
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I don't want to sound overly negative, but here is my initial feelings on this game:

I am so glad now I bought this game on yuplay.com today, because I have now cancelled my preorder on Steam and I saved 35 euros of money.

My computer is i7 920 2.7ghz, 12gb ram, ati radeon hd5850.

First of all to get realistic here, I think this "add a line to conf.ini to remove epilepsy filter" is just a placebo and rumor - i do not see ANY difference on the performance, and I have really looked into this thing. We don't know how much this filter is affecting the performance, it is possible that the real performance problems are elsewhere.

The game runs well when you are flying alone over the canal with other planes in the distance. No problems in fps there. However, when you approach a plane, the FPS will drop down to something that reminds me of a slideshow. Also flying over cities is very uncomfortable, game starts stuttering alot, sometimes it runs okayish, sometimes the fps gets really down. Overall the FPS varies constantly and a lot.

I have tried various different graphics settings, but it is strange that it doesn't seem to make such a big difference. From mid-to low settings the result is quite the same. Good fps when no activity around. When a plane comes near it goes down to hell.

Lots of visual bugs in the game, I don't know about the actual gameplay as in current state it is so unplayable that I cant get into it.

Another reality here. I am quite disappointed into the graphics to be honest. It looks outdated to me (well I just started to play crysis 2, which runs perfect on my machine on 100% gfx settings, so maybe I am bias here.) Now, it doesn't look ugly, the water and clouds look good to me, but the cities, the ground there is something about it that reminds me of older simulation games.

If you ask my opinion about this game? It might be a good game in 6 months after various updates. There has been A LOT of detail been put into game obviously. However the sad thing is that it is quite hard to see yet where has 6 years of development has gone.

Saddest part is that I seriously feel that this is THE "Silent Hunter 5" of flight sims. It is gonna be crushed in reviews and I don't know how many people, except fans, are going to buy this game after?

So I have a feeling that UBI and 1C has dropped the ball on this one. 1C would have needed another year of development time. But for the flightsim fans, There will be alot to enjoy, but it will take time for sure.
Just to know...You have installed the 500 meg patch and it did nothing to improve the game play ?

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Old 03-27-2011, 10:06 PM
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Seeing the specs of your pc, I'm glad that I didn't buy a new pc for CoD, as it would have been a total waste of money.

I'll keep an eye on the situation and hopefully in a few months things will be better.
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Old 03-27-2011, 10:07 PM
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I don't want to sound overly negative, but here is my initial feelings on this game:

I am so glad now I bought this game on yuplay.com today, because I have now cancelled my preorder on Steam and I saved 35 euros of money.
My computer is i7 920 2.7ghz, 12gb ram, ati radeon hd5850.

First of all to get realistic here, I think this "add a line to conf.ini to remove epilepsy filter" is just a placebo and rumor - i do not see ANY difference on the performance, and I have really looked into this thing. We don't know how much this filter is affecting the performance, it is possible that the real performance problems are elsewhere.

The game runs well when you are flying alone over the canal with other planes in the distance. No problems in fps there. However, when you approach a plane, the FPS will drop down to something that reminds me of a slideshow. Also flying over cities is very uncomfortable, game starts stuttering alot, sometimes it runs okayish, sometimes the fps gets really down. Overall the FPS varies constantly and a lot.
I have tried various different graphics settings, but it is strange that it doesn't seem to make such a big difference. From mid-to low settings the result is quite the same. Good fps when no activity around. When a plane comes near it goes down to hell.Lots of visual bugs in the game, I don't know about the actual gameplay as in current state it is so unplayable that I cant get into it.

Another reality here. I am quite disappointed into the graphics to be honest. It looks outdated to me (well I just started to play crysis 2, which runs perfect on my machine on 100% gfx settings, so maybe I am bias here.) Now, it doesn't look ugly, the water and clouds look good to me, but the cities, the ground there is something about it that reminds me of older simulation games.

If you ask my opinion about this game? It might be a good game in 6 months after various updates. There has been A LOT of detail been put into game obviously. However the sad thing is that it is quite hard to see yet where has 6 years of development put into. And looking into the game world in these days, it is quite dangerous to release a game SUCH half-baked. Seriously guys, this is a pre-beta version of a game. UBI should not have been releasing this now. This is THE "Silent Hunter 5" of flight sims. It is gonna be crushed in reviews and I don't know how many people, except fans, are going to buy this game after?

So I have a feeling that UBI and 1C has dropped the ball on this one. 1C would have needed another year of development time. But for the flightsim fans, There will be alot to enjoy, but it will take time for sure.

Sorry to read this assessment, I had hoped that 1c would have a real winner to protect the future developments. Maybe when a patch becomes available, you will have less problems with the game play
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Old 03-27-2011, 10:08 PM
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I suspect that such crap performacne is not "epilepsy filter" thing. It is just developers fake.

It looks that just game is such bad optimalized. Dont use mulitcore system and other things.

It looks that COD is just old IL2 engine with new graphic and some more complex DM. So with using only 1 core and 32 bit system with new graphic and some other things game engine cause such crap performacne.

For IL2 game code was enough to get good performacne but for COD is not enough.
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Old 03-27-2011, 10:10 PM
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I haven't installed any patches, if you can point me to a link I would love to. I downloaded this from steam today and I don't know if it was patched already.

Maybe it will be released by international release? However there is so many problems that it is hard to see that one patch could make it playable.

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Old 03-27-2011, 10:24 PM
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@domian

You are right I should not compare those two.

I haven't played Wings of Prey ever so I shouldn't comment on that either but by looking at the gameplay videos to me it looks that Wings of Prey looks much better in terms of ground detail.

However Interiour of planes / planes taking damage / water, clouds and little details such as windows freezing, steaming etc CoD might look better.
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Old 03-27-2011, 10:28 PM
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I suspect that such crap performacne is not "epilepsy filter" thing. It is just developers fake.

It looks that just game is such bad optimalized. Dont use mulitcore system and other things.

It looks that COD is just old IL2 engine with new graphic and some more complex DM. So with using only 1 core and 32 bit system with new graphic and some other things game engine cause such crap performacne.

For IL2 game code was enough to get good performacne but for COD is not enough.



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Old 03-27-2011, 10:34 PM
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...and then you read this...

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=19585

So what is the real deal ?

Salute !
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Old 03-27-2011, 10:37 PM
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...and then you read this...

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=19585

So what is the real deal ?

Salute !
Exactly!
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