And the WEATHER ???

[Aloko]

Originally Posted by leggit

why would the functionality of weather in a period combat sim be the main feature????....utter nonsense.

I wanted to laugh when I read your post but then I remembered I played a sports car simulation with NO weather simulated (rFactor) for years

!what is incredible in this COD is the lack of factual elements we have at our disposal to discuss in forum

[leggit]

Originally Posted by Aloko

what is incredible in this COD is the lack of factual elements we have at our disposal to discuss in forum

oh for god sake.....IT IS NOT RELEASED YET!

[Avimimus]

From Oleg's comments it is suggested that the weather was being developed in parallel and it may be a feature delayed for later release (or at least some parts of it may be). That said - some at Ingromir found complex weather variables in the FMB...

[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by JVM

Maybe because weather and flight go forever together...and because a great many missions from all types (fight, bomb, ferry, recce...) were successful (or not, or even tragically ended) because of weather issues...because weather killed (and still kills) as surely as enemy fighters...
USAAF lost 88,000 crew in WWII including a staggering 32,000 (40%!) in non-combat related occurences: of them, I would say that the majority was weather-related...and this kind of terrible tally is certainly to be duplicated in the other air forces, if not worse as weather was not always very kind in the UK and continental Europe compared to the US training areas!

So I would not dismiss weather complex functionalities that lightly...I would even say this is vital and was really severely missing from Il2 (even if there was a first approach of weather depiction)!

JV

Totally agree. A 20 knot headwind can make all the difference between nursing your crippled, fuel leaking bird back to home base or having to ditch in the channel

As for what will be in the game, nobody knows yet. What we do know is that it's been talked about by the devs since the start of development, as already mentioned we've seen a few screenshots in the FMB about it and thus, my personal estimate is that it will be part of the simulator, if not on release day then on a patch down the road.

[Trumper]

Originally Posted by leggit

why would the functionality of weather in a period combat sim be the main feature????....utter nonsense.

I can hear the briefing at The German bomber command."Today we are going to fly at anything where the clouds aren't and hope the target can be seen ,oh and we are not sure on fighter escort because they may be affected by wind speed affecting their cruising speed and fuel allowances."
Weather is nothing in a flight sim ,bit like saying the sea isn't modelled in a Naval sim.
Repeat after me ,it is ok to ask a question,i don't have to follow blindly.

[Biggs [CV]]

Stop worrying about the weather. The summer of 1940 was a nice warm summer with mostly clear skies with light clouds. Weather only halted flight operations for a few days.
Guys really need to stop stressing over this kinda stuff, its a wonder Oleg even finished the damn thing with all the nit picking and stressing that goes on.

[klem]

Originally Posted by Biggs [CV]

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Guys really need to stop stressing over this kinda stuff, its a wonder Oleg even finished the damn thing with all the nit picking and stressing that goes on.

'ere !

you can't stop people having an unfounded argument over a speculation!

That's not British. We thrive on meaningless discussion and foggy statements - just ask our politicians.

[Trumper]

Originally Posted by Biggs [CV]

Stop worrying about the weather. The summer of 1940 was a nice warm summer with mostly clear skies with light clouds. Weather only halted flight operations for a few days.
Guys really need to stop stressing over this kinda stuff, its a wonder Oleg even finished the damn thing with all the nit picking and stressing that goes on.

Well it is still weather LOL,and i really don't think it is nit picking either.

[jameson]

Weather 1940, lol!

http://www.battleofbritain1940.net/0021.html

WEDNESDAY JULY 10th 1940
ORDER OF BATTLE AT THIS TIME [ Document-22 ]
WEATHER:
Heavy cloud at 9/10ths covered most of Britain. Rain was widespread over most of the west, the midlands and the north. Showers were prevalent over the south and the south-east and over the Channel.

THURSDAY JULY 11th 1940
WEATHER:
The morning of the 11th, was typical of what one could expect on a English summers day. Southern England was covered in exceptionally low cloud, and thick fog in many areas would have made flying impossible.

FRIDAY JULY 12th 1940
THE WEATHER:
Heavy rain periods in the north with 8/10ths cloud but clearing as the day wears on. In the south-east there was low cloud, occasional showers with thunderstorms but clearing by the afternoon, while in the west the early morning cloud cleared to give way to sunny periods.

SATURDAY 13th JULY 1940
THE WEATHER:
Early fog covered much of southern England and restricted any flying operation until mid-morning. Then clearing conditions but low cloud persisted.

SUNDAY JULY 14th 1940
THE WEATHER:
Fair, with high cloud.

MONDAY JULY 15th 1940
THE WEATHER:
Low cloud persisted most of the day with occasional heavy rain.

TUESDAY JULY 16TH - WEDNESDAY JULY 24TH 1940
THE WEATHER:
The weather played an important part in activities during this time. One day it was heavy fog, not clearing until about midday, another day it was very dull with occasional heavy rain, then when things started to brighten up, the cloud rolled in again and rain became widespread.

[Rodolphe]

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Originally Posted by Biggs [CV]

The summer of 1940 was a nice warm summer with mostly clear skies with light clouds.

Reading Patrick Bishop's book "Battle of Britain, A Day-by-Day Chronicle, I got a very different feeling of that "mystical" nice and warm 1940 summer.


Chapter 2 : Beginning the duel

08 July 1940 Heavy cloud in the early morning.
10 July 1940 Cloud and showers in the south
11 July 1940 Overcast in the south; thunder with sunny spells elsewhere
12 July 1940 Foggy over Channel; cloudy elsewhere
13 July 1940 Early fog in southern parts, clearing mid-morning.
14 July 1940 Fair all day
15 July 1940 Low cloud.
16 July 1940 Widespread fog over Dover Straits and the southeast
17 July 1940 Cloudy and wet
18 July 1940 Rain in southern England; cloudy over Straits of Dover
19 July 1940 Showers with bright intervals
20 July 1940 Occasional thunderstorms; cloudy in Straits of Dover, brightening later.
21 July 1940 Fine and fair early, clouding over during late morning
22 July 1940 Straits of Dover fair, but Channel generally cloudy
23 July 1940 Slight haze in the Straits of Dover.
24 July 1940 Cloudy, rainy and fog in The west spreading east.
25 July 1940 Fine day; hazy in Straits of Dover
26 July 1940 Low cloud and heavy rain
27 July 1940 Cloudy, later clearing
28 July 1940 Fine and fair; cloudy in evening
29 July 1940 Clear and fine; slight mist in straits of Dover.
30 July 1940 Drizzle and low cloud
31 July 1940 Fine and fair; haze over the Channel


Chapter 3 ; Intensification

01 Aug 1940 Fair inland, but Channel overcast
02 Aug 1940 Cloudy in the eastern areas, and Channel overcast.
03 Aug 1940 Fog and cloud in the south; occasional bright interval.
04 Aug 1940 Cloud and fog clearing by evening.
05 Aug 1940 Fine and fair; hazy over Channel.
06 Aug 1940 Cloudy with strong winds.
07 Aug 1940 Mainly fair; some cloud, and thunderstorms in east.
08 Aug 1940 Showers, with bright intervals and light winds.
09 Aug 1940 Cloudy with some showers; Channel overcast.
10 Aug 1940 Thundery, with rain and winds; some bright intervals; Channel cloudy.
11 Aug 1940 Fair in morning, turning cloudy.
12 Aug 1940 Fine with some mist patches.
13 Aug 1940 Cloud and drizzle, turning fair later.
14 Aug 1940 Heavy cloud over Channel, brighter inland.
15 Aug 1940 Some cloud over Channel but fine elsewhere.
16 Aug 1940 Early mist, generally clearing later.
17 Aug 1940 Fine in the Channel, with some cloud in the east.
　

Chapter 4 ; Hardest days

18 Aug 1940 Misty over the Channel, but otherwise fine and fair some cloud later.
19 Aug 1940 Cloudy, with occasional showers in the east.
20 Aug 1940 Generally cloudy with rain.
21 Aug 1940 Cloudy with occasional rain.
22 Aug 1940 Cloudy with rain and winds.
23 Aug 1940 Showers with bright intervals inland; cloudy over southern and eastern waters.
24 Aug 1940 Fine and clear in the south.
25 Aug 1940 Fair early in the morning, later cloudy.
26 Aug 1940 Mostly cloudy, with brighter patches in the south.
27 Aug 1940 Rain in central and eastern parts; cloudy over Channel.
28 Aug 1940 Mostly fine and fair, with cloud in Dover Straits.
29 Aug 1940 Showers, with bright intervals; cloudy over Channel and Straits of Dover.
30 Aug 1940 Generally fair, but some low cloud.
31 Aug 1940 Generally fair with some haze over Thames Estuary and Dover Straits.
01 September 1940 Fair with some cloud, clearing in the afternoon.
02 September 1940 Generally fine and warm after early mist patches.
03 September 1940 Fine and warm, with some haze in the Channel and Straits of Dover.
04 September 1940 Fine and warm; some haze in the Channel and Strait of Dover.
05 September 1940 Continuing fine and warm, with some cloud later.
06 September 1940 Fine but cooler. Some haze over the Straits of Dover and Thames Estuary.
　


Chapter 5 ; Culmination

07 September 1940 Fair with some haze
08 September 1940 Fair early in the morning, turning cloudy later.
09 September 1940 Scattered showers, thunder in the east; Channel fair.
10 September 1940 Cloudy, with rain and thunderstorm.
11 September 1940 Showers over Thames Estuary and Channel, Clearing later.
12 September 1940 Unsettles, with heavy cloud and rain in most parts.
13 September 1940 Generally unsettled and cloudy.
14 September 1940 Showers, local thunder, and dense cloud over southern waters and southeast.
15 September 1940 Fine with some cloud patches.
16 September 1940 Cloud and rain.
17 September 1940 Squally showers with thunder and bright intervals.
18 September 1940 Generally unsettled, occasionally bright.
19 September 1940 Rain all day.
20 September 1940 Generally fair with some showers.
21 September 1940 Mainly fine.
22 September 1940 Dull, with fog in the morning, clearing by the afternoon.
23 September 1940 Generally fine.
24 September 1940 Some cloud; hazy in the Straits of Dover and Thames Estuary.
25 September 1940 Fair and cool in most areas.
26 September 1940 Mainly fair and cloudy.
27 September 1940 Fair along south and southwest coasts, cloudy over the Channel.
28 September 1940 Cloud over the Channel, the Straits of Dover and Thames Estuary.
29 September 1940 Fine early on, with cloud latter.
30 September 1940 Generally fair, with some cloud and light winds.

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