ok... who switched my B-17's armour for papier maché?

[Voyager]

Well it also looks very much like the B-17D we've got in the PC Il-2. In fact, given the B-17 descriptions from Joe Baugher's site, ( main, B-17) it sounds like it is a C or D version, given that the YB-17 is supposed to have a greenhouse turret in the nose, and it's the side gunner positions appear to be flush instead of in blisters. Can't tell if it would be a C or a D though.

On a side note, if it is required to keep the B-17 balanced, downgrading it to the D model might be viable. The D model topped out at about 4000lbs of bombs, instead of the 8000-18000 that later models could carry. It's also a 1941 plane, so it can be used in early war scenarios.

[House MD 221B]

Originally Posted by Voyager

Well it also looks very much like the B-17D we've got in the PC Il-2. In fact, given the B-17 descriptions from Joe Baugher's site, ( main, B-17) it sounds like it is a C or D version, given that the YB-17 is supposed to have a greenhouse turret in the nose, and it's the side gunner positions appear to be flush instead of in blisters. Can't tell if it would be a C or a D though.

On a side note, if it is required to keep the B-17 balanced, downgrading it to the D model might be viable. The D model topped out at about 4000lbs of bombs, instead of the 8000-18000 that later models could carry. It's also a 1941 plane, so it can be used in early war scenarios.

But the G was awesome, no-one wants to fly a D or E, even the F sucks. its not about balancing, its about getting it right, the G is just fine, it just needs fixing!

[Raw Kryptonite]

How about some fun viewing? Not making any kind of point, just plain good stuff. Another plug for Dogfights if anything.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4cksG7JoE8

[House MD 221B]

Awesome video!!!!!

[dazz1971]

man thats unbeliveable
thanks for posting great video

[birdsofmay]

i've seen a few b-17 bombers and I am amazed by the feats the plane reached but I can almost make a hole in the plating with 1 punch

yes I pressed on the plating in a musem (yes I know I shouldn't) and a dent apeared its 3mm thick at the most so bullets enter at 1 side and leave at the other side. So the armor isnt that good it just has 12 turrets well 12 guns

[mdbuehler]

They've flown one out of Boeing field here (it roams the country I believe) called "Aluminum Overcast". Watched it fly overhead several times on the way to work / and on the weekend. Thought it was stalking me lol I'm going to snag tickets next time it comes to town, you can get a flight around the area in it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBWevflkX6Q

Its currently down in Texas if anybody wants to check it out. You get to roam around the plane in flight, go to the gun positions, etc. Looks like fun!

[InfiniteStates]

Awesome video - gonna have to check for more of that on YouTube. Monday work tedium could become a thing of the past

The makers are noobs though - they should have farmed out their smoke CGI to the IL2 devs lol.

[House MD 221B]

I HAVE to do this before I die!