Me-262B

[76.IAP-Blackbird]

Hi guys, I have offered my Help to create a 262B for il2. Have talked to Casper about it and still waiting for an answer.

I m a modder for the Strike Fighter series and i am building planes beyond WW2.

But i am a big 2 seater fan and I would volunteer to build the Me 262B out of the current 262. I have checked the hirarchi stuff for il2 and If the TD guys accept my offer, we could have for 4.13 maybe an AI 262B and for 4.14 a flyable. But this is only an idea and the external model isn`t that hard to build. What bothers me, is the cockpit.

I know here are some guys around who will cry for another "much more important" plane and that there is no use for the B. But hey, I don`t care and im doing this just for fun and for the people who likes twoseater.

Maybe there could be a feauture for pilot training to switch the controls from the instructor to the student and back in the future?! Wouldn`t be bad, cause how often have you grilled the Me`s engines?!

So TD, I have wrote you an Email, and 2 PM`s and have recieved so far only one reply. I would welcome a discusion about this idea and lets talk how it can be realised.

All pics below are WIP and not for il2 just for reference

My references:

[FC99]

Originally Posted by 76.IAP-Blackbird

Hi guys, I have offered my Help to create a 262B for il2. Have talked to Casper about it and still waiting for an answer.

AFAIK Caspar is on vacation now.

But i am a big 2 seater fan and I would volunteer to build the Me 262B out of the current 262. I have checked the hirarchi stuff for il2 and If the TD guys accept my offer, we could have for 4.13 maybe an AI 262B and for 4.14 a flyable. But this is only an idea and the external model isn`t that hard to build. What bothers me, is the cockpit.

I know here are some guys around who will cry for another "much more important" plane and that there is no use for the B. But hey, I don`t care and im doing this just for fun and for the people who likes twoseater.

Maybe there could be a feauture for pilot training to switch the controls from the instructor to the student and back in the future?! Wouldn`t be bad, cause how often have you grilled the Me`s engines?!

TBH I don't see much use for Me262B especially if it is AI only. Dual controls are not a trivial thing to do right so it is questionable if we will ever implement something like that. But it is not me who can make decision about this, this is up to team to decide and lot of members are on their summer vacations. I'm affraid that we will not be able to give you an answer until September.

[76.IAP-Blackbird]

If you need 3D support to improve models, or create other variants out of the current one, "example early Sptfires without canons" or somethign else. Maybe I could help you out at this point, my work is limited on animations and rebuild planes for Strikefighters Series, for the last 7 years

Using Maya and 3Ds Max hope that helps

[Fafnir_6]

The Me262B Nachtjager would be awesome! We would need some Lancasters and Halifaxes for it to blow away though...

Cheers,

Fafnir_6

[Pursuivant]

Originally Posted by Fafnir_6

The Me262B Nachtjager would be awesome! We would need some Lancasters and Halifaxes for it to blow away though...

Nightfighter versions, operational or not, would be welcome for any of the planes which already exist in the game.

Ar-234B-2 - Nightfighter variant that saw some operational use.

Do-335 V21 - Proposed two seater nachtjager version.

Me-410 NJ - or, just a flyable Me-410

P-38M - Proposed nightfighter version of the P-38, built too late to see action.

P-70 - the nightfighter version of the A-20. Used operationally in the MTO and the Pacific.

If you're wanting to to do early jets, we're still missing the Gloster Meteor as an official release (there is a modded version, though).

If you're wanting to do nightfighters, the He-219 Uhu would be welcome (sadly, the P-61 is off-limits for legal reasons).

[Fafnir_6]

Originally Posted by Pursuivant

or, just a flyable Me-410

This.

Fafnir_6

[76.IAP-Blackbird]

The reason for this topic is, Idon`t want to suggest, demand or cry for planes, I want activly help the Team and support them.

This is not a "I want this or that plane..." topic

[FC99]

Originally Posted by 76.IAP-Blackbird

If you need 3D support to improve models, or create other variants out of the current one, "example early Sptfires without canons" or somethign else. Maybe I could help you out at this point, my work is limited on animations and rebuild planes for Strikefighters Series, for the last 7 years

Using Maya and 3Ds Max hope that helps

We can certainly use any help we can get. 3dsmax is preferable modeling tool.

As fas as what to model I really can't say, I don't know what is already in works by other people. Anyway, it is best to work on something you like. My impression from your initial post is that you are better in external models than in cockpits, is that right?

[76.IAP-Blackbird]

Sound good to me, I have many more WIP stuff but those pics were the first I`ve had my hands on.

You are right, external models are my prefered working place. Sadly I have no experience with cockpits, thats the thing thats most missing in il2.

We have workgroups in SF2, so we have people specialised on cockpits, some are skinner and some 3D modeler, even there we have specialised people. I have decided that the current avaible models for SF weren`t that way I like to have. So I have learned to improve models with in game limitations, different technics to make a surface look more detailed than it actual is. So maybe this can help to improve the one or the other model and still stay in the game limitations.

Idont want to rush this idea, so I can wait till the other guys are back from vacation. Maybe this can be a good cooperation.

Im always working on stuff "I" want to have ingame, so the workflow is garanteed. If some one ask for something I have no interest in,I will not say yes, cause it would take for ever to finish something.

I Thank you FC99 for your fast reply and this very good discussion. I have no idea if you guys have an internal Forum, but lets talk about it later, when the other members from TD accept my offer and the one or other idea is discussed. Hope thats so far ok for you guys.

Thanks in advance

[Pursuivant]

Originally Posted by 76.IAP-Blackbird

This is not a "I want this or that plane..." topic

Sorry if I turned the thread that way. I think that the Me-262B would be a fine addition to the game. But, I thought that there might be some problems getting it into the game, so I was suggesting options.