il2 1946 4.08m vs radeon hd3850

[1.JaVA_Jojo]

Another thing: if people switch to another graphic card manufacturer then they should make changes in the graphics tab setup of the game.

If somenone had a nVidia based card and changed it to a AMD/Ati you cannot simply run the game without adjustments in that setup. After changes in setup you notice that in the config.ini.

I had the 3870, wich is basically the same as the 3850 and never had any lower than 35 fps. All maxed out in 1600x1200.

People may think that Ati 3850 is a bad card but it certainly is NOT!

[Thunderbolt56]

All the rhetoric about being CPU-bound in that rig is false. The 4400+ is plenty adequate to run at 12x10 in perfect given the other hardware is up to the task. IMO, your issue is the 3850 GPU. Even the HD 3870 was marginal for some of the higher settings under perfect landscape and only got worse when you included some antialiasing. The 3850 had few shaders, slower memory clocks and fewer pipes.

If this sim is the one you play most, sell that GPU and get an 8800GT or 8800GTS (G92). Clean your drivers COMPLETELY before switching manufacturers, crank up the settings and enjoy this sim for another year.

[sanyigz]

there are no specified shaders since the unified shaders came out, and since the gpu-s using multi functional units. the 3850 have 320 stream processing units, as the 3870, bcuz it's the same gpu(rv670) exept the clocks.

I don't play just il2, and when the real dx10 and 10.1 games coming, i won't downgrade to a dx9.5 gpu like a g92.

When im at home, i'll try to turn off 3dgunners, and setup radeon 9800 settings.

[JG27CaptStubing]

Originally Posted by sanyigz

there are no specified shaders since the unified shaders came out, and since the gpu-s using multi functional units. the 3850 have 320 stream processing units, as the 3870, bcuz it's the same gpu(rv670) exept the clocks.

I don't play just il2, and when the real dx10 and 10.1 games coming, i won't downgrade to a dx9.5 gpu like a g92.

When im at home, i'll try to turn off 3dgunners, and setup radeon 9800 settings.

A G92 is based upon the G80 GPU with a die shrink and some enhancements like PCIE 2.0 and DX 10.1. It's certainly not a downgrade. They have a lot of bang for the buck.

In terms of a new GPU the most bang for your buck right now is the 260

I opted to buy another 8800GT and go SLI. I had some problems with SLI but I've been able to work them out. 8800GTs in SLI are in some cases faster than a 280 GTX. The key is SLI isn't as clean of a solution though it works. Running COD4 and a few other titles like a champ. The next move for me will be the move to a high end Quad Core but so far I'm not seeing games scale much past a 2 core CPU. I know FSX is about the only game where there is a noticable difference.

In terms of DX10 I aint buying into right now. This generation of cards isn't enough run it well and the visuals aren't that much better than DX9. So far I haven't seen the promised efficiency nor the mind blowing graphics DX10. Plus you can keep Vista... Only now is it starting to mature.

[sanyigz]

Originally Posted by JG27CaptStubing

A G92 is based upon the G80 GPU with a die shrink and some enhancements like PCIE 2.0 and DX 10.1. It's certainly not a downgrade. They have a lot of bang for the buck.

There is no dx10.1 nvidia card, g80 also have pcie2.0 support.

But after a hd3850 any nvidia card would be downgrade, bcuz it capable for dx10.1, and nvidia cards hardly capable for REAL dx10 games (cuz there was some games with advertised dx10... but dx10 not about just shader 4, and they used just that)

Originally Posted by JG27CaptStubing

In terms of DX10 I aint buying into right now. This generation of cards isn't enough run it well and the visuals aren't that much better than DX9. So far I haven't seen the promised efficiency nor the mind blowing graphics DX10. Plus you can keep Vista... Only now is it starting to mature.

As i said there are no real dx10 right now, but there will be. DX10 mainly isn't about better graphics, but about more efficent working. There was a little demo called "assasing creed" with it's "free" antialiasing with the use of dx10.1, of course only worked on ati cards.

current nvidia cards isn't enough for run dx10 games(poor performance in geometry shader fe.), that's why i wrote dx9.5 for nvidia cards, but ati cards won't have problem with that.

That's why i won't downgrade to nvidia, even if these old, nvidia optimized games like il2 running better on nvidia cards.

[GhostFiles]

Originally Posted by sanyigz

Hi!

I have that videocard as in title, with 512mb ram, a64 x2 4400+, 2gb ddr2 800.
But i have poor fps in game. In the most of scenarios, i get maximum 50fps(what is not too high for this card), even if i turn down graphics to minimum, from maximum, and sometimes it drops below 20 fps, what is very annoying. But in some scenarios, like those single pacific island(there is a little island, japan base, and the usn attacking from aircraft carriers) carreer missions, my fps is between 30 and 10 fps, what is very low, if i set graphics to minimum, i can only get +10 fps, what is still not enough.

In opengl mode, this performance is more poor, so im playing in dx mode.

Sometimes it looks like it's slower than on my old athlon xp 3100+, 1gb ddr400, radeon9600pro config, what is really weird.

With my machine i can play oblivion, stalker, armed assault, with maximum setting, with 16AF, and with some aa, so i don't understand why il2 running so slow.

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It could be the drivers.

If you can use the 7.11 drivers with the 3850, I would try that.

With the x1950 card, the 7.11Cats work best (smooth, fast, full settings...)

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[Sw@tLorD]

Got the same card a few days ago. After some reinstalling I managed to get the driver wright. But when I start the game in OPENGL mode, I have just 1fps when I'm in the main menu (the screen with all the buttons etc).
When switched to directX runs very good, but the graphix are bugga :s

Anyone familiar with this problem?

[KG66_Manta]

Well i cant nit get the 260 GTX to work in perfect mode above 15fps, my advice dont get this card for IL2.

In saying that, all new games run 100%