Fw 190 - numbers for A-8 and A-9

[Crumpp]

Anyway, true that the TS was cleared for 1.82 ata later on, in fact the engine's been modelled with, but it was included without because the A-9 in game is a designated a 1944 aircraft.

The FW-190A9 was most common of the Antons in 1945.

Production Details for the FW 190 A-9
Just over 900 FW 190 A-9s were built in late 1944 and early 1945. Focke-Wulf at Cottbus was responsible for most of these aircraft. Blocks built by this factory ranged from 202 360 to 207 240 (including a number of gaps). Focke-Wulf, Aslau built aircraft from W.Nr 490 020 to 490 050. An unknown manufacturer produced 560 020 to 560 030. Mimetall at Erfurt built 750 070 to 750 160. Finally, Norddeutsche Dornier at Wismar built three blocks, with aircraft from W.Nr 980 150 to 980 590 (with gaps).[1]

[fruitbat]

Originally Posted by Crumpp

The FW-190A9 was most common of the Antons in 1945.

Heres a breakdown on the numbers and dates produced (930 A9's in total). Looks to me that they were producing A8's and A9's in the last 3 months of '44, with A9 production lasting just 1 month longer, before it was all switched to Doras.

More A8's were made during there concurrent production runs than A9's.





Of course, in 45 the production shifted mainly to the Dora ,

[Crumpp]

Fruitbat,

Just about all the aircraft produced in contracted block to be on the production line in November and December 1944 were being OPERATED in January 1945.

In otherwords, most of the FW-190A9 production is in use in 1945.

That is typical for all production aircraft.

White 1 for example, rolled off the production line at NDW, went through a week of acceptance flights to ensure contract compliance before being transferred to the Luftwaffe, then went to a distribution node where it sat for 3 weeks before being issued to JG5.

The last aircraft in White 1's production block rolled off the assembly line on the 20th June. The contract block was from May to June 44. After being assembled, White 1 spent until the 13th of July in test and acceptance flights before becoming part of the Luftwaffe inventory.

It was then shipped to the depot in Anklam where it was finally issued to JG5 in mid-August 1944.

Any production block that you see means a lag of ~30-60 days to Operational use.

I know you don't deal with reality very much in airplanes so reading the production block dates mistaking them for operational dates is expected. It is very rare that anything is "poofed" into existence operationally. There is always some lag time.

[fruitbat]

Crump read the production dates for the A8 again.

I completely understand the fact about production dates being different to operational dates, its bloody obvious, don't be so patronising.

The simple fact is more A8's were produced during the A9's production run than A9's, its in black and white for you to read if you weren't so obtuse.

Therefore your claim that the A9 was the most prevalent is clearly not true, as these A8's would be coming into service at the same time, as they were made at the same time. Its not rocket science, i'm not sure what you don't understand, except what you choose not to.

[MaxGunz]

Can production tell what was flown? They didn't have gas for all that were made before the end and there were losses on ground as well as in the air.

I guess I should be happy that as many records survived as did.

[Crumpp]

Therefore your claim that the A9 was the most prevalent is clearly not true,

It certainly is true. More FW-190A9's were built than FW-190A3's!

It was not until December that we see the production started in October reaching operational units. Even then, it was in trickles.

http://www.ww2.dk/oob/bestand/jagd/bijg301.html

http://www.ww2.dk/oob/bestand/jagd/biijg301.html

http://www.ww2.dk/oob/bestand/jagd/bstjg301.html

http://www.ww2.dk/oob/bestand/jagd/bijg1.html

http://www.ww2.dk/oob/bestand/jagd/bijg2.html

http://www.ww2.dk/oob/bestand/jagd/biiijg2.html

http://www.ww2.dk/oob/bestand/jagd/bivjg3.html

http://www.ww2.dk/oob/bestand/jagd/bijg6.html

http://www.ww2.dk/oob/bestand/jagd/biijg6.html

http://www.ww2.dk/oob/bestand/jagd/bijg11.html

http://www.ww2.dk/oob/bestand/jagd/bijg26.html

http://www.ww2.dk/oob/bestand/jagd/biijg26.html

http://www.ww2.dk/oob/bestand/jagd/bijg54.html

http://www.ww2.dk/oob/bestand/jagd/biijg54.html

http://www.ww2.dk/oob/bestand/jagd/bivjg54.html


The FW-190A9 using 1.78ata @ 2700U/min in the first gear supercharger is the 1945 variant of the Anton series, that is a fact.

So Fruitbat, what is your theory on the 900 examples of the FW-190A9 delivered to the Luftwaffe as to when they were used if it is not 1945?

[Crumpp]

There is no need to guess or read into the documents as per the usual suspects.


It is clear the FW190A9 is the replacement Anton for the FW-190A8.

Are we really having this discussion?

side by side with the 2500 A-8's that were built in parallel to the 900 A-9's.

You also do not have the production details for the blocks. Almost all the FW-190A8's produced in the later part of 1944 are all weather variants or assault ships.

Oskar Bösch went thru 13 FW190A8's during his time with IV/JG3 Sturm. His unit had a 500% casualty rate.

Both are specialized variants for specific units and neither is designed as an air superiority variant.

[Crumpp]

The last FW-190A8 lost to air combat was on 25 Febuary. They were not the most prevelent Anton in JG301 at that time.

The sole FW-190A8 lost in March crashed on the transfer flight back to the depot. That last part of 1945 is kind of hard to read. There is only FW-190A8 listed and it is the one that crashed on the transfer flight.

[Crumpp]

Crumpp says:

The FW-190A9 was most common of the Antons in 1945.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...5&postcount=18

From Page 2, that is the one you are talking about as not being a true statement, right friutbat??