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Old 12-05-2009, 09:01 PM
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Over G is "realistic"? As I recall one could flip upside down, go get a beer, make a phone call and when you got back your plane would still be there, happily buzzing away until it ran off the map. Not trying to put down anyone for enjoying a game but a flight sim that aint. There is such a thing as gravity, even in a jet fighter. ESPECIALLY in a jet fighter.
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Old 12-05-2009, 09:44 PM
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Over G is "realistic"? As I recall one could flip upside down, go get a beer, make a phone call and when you got back your plane would still be there, happily buzzing away until it ran off the map. Not trying to put down anyone for enjoying a game but a flight sim that aint. There is such a thing as gravity, even in a jet fighter. ESPECIALLY in a jet fighter.
definetly not, maybe on arcade settings that keep you straight but invert and leave it and you'll soon it in the drink/ground...you'll even red out
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Old 12-05-2009, 10:03 PM
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Over G is "realistic"? As I recall one could flip upside down, go get a beer, make a phone call and when you got back your plane would still be there, happily buzzing away until it ran off the map. Not trying to put down anyone for enjoying a game but a flight sim that aint. There is such a thing as gravity, even in a jet fighter. ESPECIALLY in a jet fighter.
Hmm. Sounds as if you were indeed playing this great console SIM on the default arcade settings (and therefore was little surprise you were bored after 3 minutes), because with the copy of the game I have, there was no way you could leave the craft in an inverted state & go get your beer because if you did you would red-out very quickly followed by a quick inverted dive to terra-firma.
And yes; Energy Airforce & Over G are basically the same game; the energy airforce logo is present throughout the games interface & aircraft.

Referring to your 1st post on this topic; 3 minutes to form an opinion on a game that simulates a complex area such as flight (& done so very well with Over G & Energy Airforce) is a very clever gift to have. Not being a huge fan of Birds of Prey, it did take me a good, careful 6 or so hours before I could finally say 'nope, good graphics but little else'

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Old 12-05-2009, 11:46 PM
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Hmm. Sounds as if you were indeed playing this great console SIM on the default arcade settings (and therefore was little surprise you were bored after 3 minutes), because with the copy of the game I have, there was no way you could leave the craft in an inverted state & go get your beer because if you did you would red-out very quickly followed by a quick inverted dive to terra-firma.
And yes; Energy Airforce & Over G are basically the same game; the energy airforce logo is present throughout the games interface & aircraft.

Referring to your 1st post on this topic; 3 minutes to form an opinion on a game that simulates a complex area such as flight (& done so very well with Over G & Energy Airforce) is a very clever gift to have. Not being a huge fan of Birds of Prey, it did take me a good, careful 6 or so hours before I could finally say 'nope, good graphics but little else'
Maybe I missed something, but I spent quite a bit of time with Over G and tried lotsa different settings before I traded it in. It's been a while, but I just don't remember the game having anything to do with flight, more like choose your space age weapons and blast away. It could be that the "flight" aspects of the game were too deeply buried in the window dressing for me to appreciate it. It's too bad, 'cause I really did want to like the game. I'm glad you're having some fun with it though. Different strokes and all that...

After reading Krypyonite's post, it is possible that I'm confusing OverG with AC6. I tried them both, and to be honest I couldn't find much difference and I traded in both. I've tried every flight game that's ever come out for 360, and BoP is the only one I still play. Not that BoP is all that much better, I just prefer it for some reason. Maybe I just like shooting Nazis.

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Old 12-06-2009, 12:20 AM
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Maybe I missed something, but I spent quite a bit of time with Over G and tried lotsa different settings before I traded it in. It's been a while, but I just don't remember the game having anything to do with flight, more like choose your space age weapons and blast away. It could be that the "flight" aspects of the game were too deeply buried in the window dressing for me to appreciate it. It's too bad, 'cause I really did want to like the game. I'm glad you're having some fun with it though. Different strokes and all that...

After reading Krypyonite's post, it is possible that I'm confusing OverG with AC6. I tried them both, and to be honest I couldn't find much difference and I traded in both. I've tried every flight game that's ever come out for 360, and BoP is the only one I still play. Not that BoP is all that much better, I just prefer it for some reason. Maybe I just like shooting Nazis.
They are both very different. OverG is a sim for consoles AC6 is very arcadey.
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Old 12-06-2009, 12:27 AM
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Over-G control setup is: left analogue - elevators/ ailerons; left/right triggers - rudders; right analogue - free look; shoulder buttons - throttle. Other buttons switch armament types, HUD modes, viewpoint and fire missiles/guns. The D-Pad features change from a/c to a/c but generally include landing gear + flaps (no separate control of these), as well as a/c-specific functions such as arrestor hooks/stealth mode/AoA limiter etc. I know I'm forgetting some things but these are the basics.
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Old 12-06-2009, 04:11 AM
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Over-G control setup is: left analogue - elevators/ ailerons; left/right triggers - rudders; right analogue - free look; shoulder buttons - throttle. Other buttons switch armament types, HUD modes, viewpoint and fire missiles/guns. The D-Pad features change from a/c to a/c but generally include landing gear + flaps (no separate control of these), as well as a/c-specific functions such as arrestor hooks/stealth mode/AoA limiter etc. I know I'm forgetting some things but these are the basics.
Thanks this is basically AV8R layout except throttle goes back to 55% when you let off the buttons.

Which button fires cannon?
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Old 12-06-2009, 12:23 PM
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Thanks this is basically AV8R layout except throttle goes back to 55% when you let off the buttons.

Which button fires cannon?
Guns are selected with X and then fired with the same button used to fire missiles were they selected.
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Old 12-06-2009, 12:29 AM
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They are both very different. OverG is a sim for consoles AC6 is very arcadey.
I thought they were both very arcadey. I musta missed somethin'
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Old 12-06-2009, 12:30 AM
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Maybe I missed something, but I spent quite a bit of time with Over G and tried lotsa different settings before I traded it in. It's been a while, but I just don't remember the game having anything to do with flight, more like choose your space age weapons and blast away. It could be that the "flight" aspects of the game were too deeply buried in the window dressing for me to appreciate it. It's too bad, 'cause I really did want to like the game. I'm glad you're having some fun with it though. Different strokes and all that...

After reading Krypyonite's post, it is possible that I'm confusing OverG with AC6. I tried them both, and to be honest I couldn't find much difference and I traded in both. I've tried every flight game that's ever come out for 360, and BoP is the only one I still play. Not that BoP is all that much better, I just prefer it for some reason. Maybe I just like shooting Nazis.
Respect your opinions & points.

A shame that you found AC6 & OGF to be similar. AC6 is, & always has been nothing but a dumbed down arcade OTT action fest but in its defense it doesn't hide this point but OGF IMO, was a very bold move in being as real as possible without the need for theatrics & OTT content etc.
I'd say AC6 & OGF are as different as say COD MW2 & Op Flashpoint.
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