'Red Tails' New WW2 movie coming out ;)

[335th_GRExandas]

Heinz Knoke was dodging 5 P47 for about an hour (only to escape)
bit that fear.

Tuskegee airmen where very good only because they had racial issues.
They forced to prove things that days, just for the American society.

Originally Posted by bongodriver

Just seeing the clip of the P-51 doing an Su27 style backflip is enough for me to leave well alone.

What this isnt realistic? The Ai do this kind of stuff all the time .....

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by machoo

What this isnt realistic? The Ai do this kind of stuff all the time .....

Ain't that the truth....my head is still spinning trying to keep up.

[Sternjaeger II]

Let's not forget this is a film about race pride set in a WW2 context, not an aviation film per se.. but anyway, I would give it a shot and see what it's like, although I find this race card thing a bit of a cliché at times if not played correctly.. we already have a movie about the Tuskegee Airmen, then there's the movie Miracle at St. Anna..

I wish Hollywood had some guts or there was someone crazy enough to invest in telling the stories of other pilots, like the long serving German aces or the Japanese ones.. something comparable to Das Boot in terms of epic story.

[bongodriver]

Problem there Stern is that the Americans for the most part have no interest in stories that aren't their own, hence why the film about the capture of the enigma was 'americanised', or the next Battle of Britain movie was set to feature 'Billy Fiske' saving europe, may as well suggest making a movie glorifying Osama Bin Laden....it will have as much of a chance, it's not like the Tuskeege airmen were the first black combat pilots, the comonwealth forces had them and many others from other ethnic groups.

[justme262]

The silly over done flight manoeuvres are just too annoying. Realistic tactics and flight physics would have made a great movie anyway...

I would like to see a film about Galland and JV44 rising in a hand full of me262 to meet massed allied bomber formations defended by hundreds of escort fighters. There is a tragic courage to these elite pilots defending their country, facing impossible odds while also flying the most advanced jets and with such high level of experience and skill.

"If measured by the accumulated victories of its pilots the Jagdverband 44 was the most elite fighter squadron in the history of military aviation" wikipedia

Also JG7
"On 18 March 1945, 37 Me 262s of JG 7 intercepted a force of 1,221 bombers and 632 escorting fighters. They shot down 12 bombers and one fighter for the loss of three Me 262s"wikipedia

That's just about he coolest thing that ever happened...

[bongodriver]

That's just about he coolest thing that ever happened...

Unless you are an American........

[335th_GRExandas]

Beyond the war propaganda American pilots had not much
to fight for over Europe!

That's why the American Aces were made over Pacific.

[bongodriver]

That's why the American Aces were made over Pacific.

Appart from the ones who became aces in europe.......

[ATAG_Snapper]

Originally Posted by 335th_GRExandas

Beyond the war propaganda American pilots had not much
to fight for over Europe!

That's why the American Aces were made over Pacific.

Exasctly. By the time the Yanks got into the European Theatre of Operations in 1942 there were barely one or two Luftwaffe squadrons left flown by wet-behind-the-ears rookie pilots. Well, except maybe for New Years Day, 1945............