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Old 01-17-2010, 08:57 PM
adecoy95 adecoy95 is offline
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Default how do you kite so much?

i hear alot of people say they get like, thousands of leadership, experience, and many many maps without fighting at all, but i am trying to do the same thing, and its not working.

im trying to kite the eagles on scarlet wind for the map, but all the other monsters keep getting in the way lol

how do you do it?
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Old 01-17-2010, 09:20 PM
DGDobrev DGDobrev is offline
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The good old pause and save trick When the guards move a little, pause and quicksave. Then move a little bit, pause and save again.
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Old 01-17-2010, 09:24 PM
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The Bolo map is easy enough to kite since it spawns in either an unguarded position (near Rob Cuttlefish's cave) or up a small hill near the castle.

The Rusty Anchor map is a bit tricky to kite. It is generated in an alcove with an enemy guard, and near a shrine that also has a guard. The idea is to kite them together towards the central large area. So first kite the guard near the shrine to follow you to the alcove, then run ahead of him and kite the guard of the map. Don't run away too fast since they would stop following you, just use pause/spacebar a lot to move in small increments, and actually wait for them to catch up a little if you move too far. Then just kite them together to the central large area (where you could run rings around them) and run back to get the map.

Sometimes a Verona map is generated in Scarlet, but an un-kite-able enemy guards it.

Kiting takes away the challenge of the game, though. So only do it if you are stuck in your game and don't know what else to do to make your army and character more powerful.
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Old 01-18-2010, 03:07 AM
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I would slightly disagree. Kiting will take away the challenge of the *fights* in the first third of the game or so. Kiting is, however, quite tricky to do well (easy if you just abuse saving-and-loading until it works, but hard to do without saving in the middle). And by the time you hit the second half of the game you'll probably be struggling even if you did some kiting early.

I also kite because it helps you speed through what I find the boring part of the game - when you have basically no intelligence, no mana, no spells, no dragon abilities, and limited units - thus your choices for fights are very narrow. Admittedly it's a hard part of the game, but boring nonetheless to me.
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Old 01-18-2010, 03:24 AM
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Isn't it more boring to enter into a fight and know 100% that you would win and most likely massacre the enemy with impunity? Because aside from boss fights, this is what the late-middle to late game is all about.

If there was any fight at all in the middle to late game that was difficult in any form or way, you could always drop all of your units and get black knights with eviln spell support, even without the shard; this tactic is a non-option at all in the first part of the game.

The hardest part and most challenging part of the game is the first part, that is if you didn't skip it by map-kiting.

Map-kiting does not do well for your end-game score too. You will definitely spend a lot more than 7 in-game days to finish the game, adversely affecting your final score.

To each his own, I guess.
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Old 01-18-2010, 05:35 AM
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If they want to cheat by taking the map using these sly cowardly ways instead of winning it in a fair fight then it's their choice I suppose.
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Old 01-18-2010, 06:14 AM
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If they want to cheat by taking the map using these sly cowardly ways instead of winning it in a fair fight then it's their choice I suppose.
Easy there buddy, let us refrain from using words like "cheat" and "cowardly" in reference to other people's actions.

Kiting in general is an option, be it map kiting or other kiting. I understand your sentiments, but I believe the time, and resulting end-game score penalty is enough to limit the use of this option.
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Old 01-18-2010, 08:28 AM
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How do u call that cheating?? cheat is something easy mode .. to cheat you just type cheat and u got it .. kiting is not like that ... u can spend hours on that
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Old 01-18-2010, 11:26 AM
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It is quite refreshing to unlock most area for the first couple playthroughs by map kiting, just like being level 5 in Demonis back in KB:TL. But by doing so, you are simply trivializing the content, even if partially, and I believe this is enough to deter players constantly map kiting in their games.
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Old 01-18-2010, 12:39 PM
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For me first 15-20 levels of game and especially first 50 battles are most fun to play. If you can kite somehing without pause/reload I think is ok to do it, but too much leadership will ruin Debir fights.
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