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Old 09-26-2010, 09:46 PM
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Uhh, isn't that what the above pictures show?
Not the way that it was described as I interpreted it. The rail was not there for a guide, the bomb was attached to the rail and lowered prior to release.

Damned ingenious design really.

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Old 09-26-2010, 09:50 PM
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Does anyone know if the rail was always there? Or was there some unfortunate pilot somewhere who discovered that all of a sudden he had no propeller?
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Old 09-26-2010, 10:24 PM
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Not the way that it was described as I interpreted it. The rail was not there for a guide, the bomb was attached to the rail and lowered prior to release.

Damned ingenious design really.
Then I guess I don't understand what you mean. Could you elaborate?
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Old 09-26-2010, 10:29 PM
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Then I guess I don't understand what you mean. Could you elaborate?
The way I read it, and it may not be how it was meant, was that the bomb was guided by the rail. My point was that the bomb was not released from the "belly" of the plane but was lowered on the rail prior and then released from there. I'm not sure id any other aircraft of the time had such a mechanism.

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Old 09-26-2010, 10:32 PM
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Does anyone know if the rail was always there? Or was there some unfortunate pilot somewhere who discovered that all of a sudden he had no propeller?
I know they had accidents in development, but I think the rail.sling was there from the start.

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Old 09-26-2010, 11:12 PM
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The way I read it, and it may not be how it was meant, was that the bomb was guided by the rail. My point was that the bomb was not released from the "belly" of the plane but was lowered on the rail prior and then released from there. I'm not sure id any other aircraft of the time had such a mechanism.
Well, yes, the trapeze swung down before release in order to keep the bomb away from the prop. The mechanism is not modeled in IL-2.

PS - I was looking for a video which would demonstrate the movement of the trapeze, when I stumbled upon this gem of historical accuracy. (watch from 3:45 until 4:10)


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Old 09-26-2010, 11:43 PM
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"trapeze": That's the word I have been looking for in my brain all day lol.

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Old 09-27-2010, 06:04 AM
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Well, yes, the trapeze swung down before release in order to keep the bomb away from the prop. The mechanism is not modeled in IL-2.

PS - I was looking for a video which would demonstrate the movement of the trapeze, when I stumbled upon this gem of historical accuracy. (watch from 3:45 until 4:10)


There is a close shot of the "Ablenkgabel" at 1'10" on this video.





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Old 09-27-2010, 07:39 AM
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I believe the correct description of the drop is as follows:
1. The bomb is RELEASED from the ETC501
2. The Bomb is GUIDED by the Trapez outside the propeller arc.
The Bomb is not released from the trapez as it isn't fixed to it!
There are just forks at the end of the trapez, not clamps.
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