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12-19-2009, 03:34 PM
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No losses Imp Mage high score help
Hi
I need help with a travel route, which would give me a time advantage when fighting monsters. For instance, Debir->Scarlet->Bolo->Rusty Anchor -> Debir -> Scarlet (killing the invincible monsers etc). What would be great are some pointers, where what to do, or at more or less what lvl you should be, like for instance at Scarlet Islands kite the lvl 10 hero to buy a few paladins in the tent if they spawn, or at Rusty Anchor there is a free Emerald Dragon (1900 leadership required) etc. Also, one more question: does anyone knows where trolls can spawn, besides the goblin/orc islands ? I am aiming for a 10 day max game, with no looses, and doing all the quests. Atm, lvl 6 at Scarlet Island, killed almost everything there, day 2 - 2 a.m. Trapper achievement almost lvl 3 Last edited by Amidamaru86; 12-19-2009 at 03:52 PM. 
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#2
12-19-2009, 03:39 PM
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Well the answer wil mostly depend if u wanna do all quest or you go for days only?? Actuay shttera and nameless are optional very much, and a lot quest needs coming back to island so you must consider to find the most optimum way .. i think only umkas is the one which u dont have to revisit (if u have necrocall)
troll spawn very much randomly .. dont know sure place .. the best is to check with save scanner(mod section of the forum)
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12-19-2009, 03:52 PM
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Yes, I want to do all the quests, to boost the score with no losses, basically my strategy will be to block a unit with stone wall so it wont move, and use phantoms on inquisitors/paladins to ress, and use the +rage ability from inquisitors to boost mana at the end of the fight so I can use sacrifice/ressurect everytime when it is needed, and to end a battle with full mana and rage so I can instantly start a next battle, not to mention that the dragon will level really quick, due to the abuse of mana accelerator/treasure find etc.
This strategy should really pay off once I will get sacrifice, and mana regeneration each turn talent, and invincible monsters should be no problem then. Last edited by Amidamaru86; 12-19-2009 at 04:02 PM.
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#4
12-19-2009, 05:13 PM
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Stonewall wont block them, they wil destroy it ... it worked for me with mage but on normal .. on impossible i doubt it.
And tresure hunt mana accelator wont make your dragon level up qickly .. its completly opposite, they give low exp ..they are the worst for lvling ... i was using like that and my dragon ended the game with level 35 .. while hero was 57 .. Abut the way .. i strongly suggest writed down all quest which needs a travel and make your journey based on it. Last edited by Elwin; 12-19-2009 at 05:23 PM.
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#5
12-19-2009, 06:49 PM
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Stonewall is awsome, finished the game once already on impossible with a warrior, but there is a drawback = stone wall starts to be effective once it gets about 2000 hp, I remember that once my stone wall had 5000 hp, it could hold 250 veteran orcs for a few turns, and that is awsome for ranged units.
But what I mean by using stone wall is once the enemy army is destroyed completely, and has 1 unit left, then block it with stone wall and weaken it as much as you can, so for instance lets say 25 bears blocked by a stone wall with 5000 hp = infinite number of turns, and you can ress/sacricife all you want, so lets say you lost 80% of your army, you will be able to ress them all, although it will take some turns, the most important thing is to keep the rage/mana flowing with calm rage/the +rage from inquisitors, the good thing about that is you can phantom 1 inquisitor and he will have like 3x +rage spell  Also, I think mana accelerator in my opinion is a dragon leveler, although I do not know the equasion which gives exp per rage used, but If for instance I use 1x dragon dive which has 2 turns rest, and 2x mana accelerator which has 1 turn rest, shouldn't the exp be more or less the same ? or the mana accelerator exp gain is totally low ? Edit: Found a post with: Quote:
Last edited by Amidamaru86; 12-19-2009 at 08:42 PM.
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#7
12-20-2009, 10:50 AM
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I am on impossible in day 12 with 2/3game cleared but i did a lot re- traveling to fight only undead stacks to free moro .. i could get down these number by few days for sure
and amidamaru : you cant realy rely on this calculation as far as i rember damage skills alos give exp for l kiling damging i think. I just know that treasure and mana accelerator abusing realy sucks for leveling. I just played like that and got miserable lvl 35 .. Last edited by Elwin; 12-20-2009 at 10:55 AM.
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#8
12-20-2009, 02:16 PM
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One of the reasons those skills suck for leveling is that the other part of the formula is "X (enemy total leadership / your total leadership.)" With your strategy, the main abuse phase comes when your opponent has almost no troops, hence almost no leadership. Meaning each time you spam it, you'll get less than 1 exp. If the game rounds up, you'll get 1.
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#9
12-21-2009, 09:00 AM
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Ohh, thanks for the info - now I get it
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#10
12-21-2009, 09:14 AM
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But idea finding the shortest way to do all is nice. Calinda did in 10 but said it was first run so can be done better at all. We did it in TL so think we can for AP too
I am thinking about such way, but there are so many quest traveling that it makes hard .. some realy stupid and pointles .. like the meteor one on elon ... iwas day 14 almost at the end of game but such stupid quest made me day 17 in the end ... The first thing hmm one run island would be tekron an umkas so i would go there only if i have necrocall spell for owl, and glasses quest from dersu thats sure. Shettera is also one run. rest is ruinning back.. First i think we need gather all required traveling info so I traveling times no need for ontero at all, going from verona save 1-5 hours. Debir-scarlet 3H Debir-bolo 6H Debir-rusty anchor 7h debir verona - 9h debir shettera 7h debir dersu 9h debir elon 12h debir uzala 12h debir tekron 9h debir unkas 13h debir nameless 16h debir reha 16h tthe time for scarlet isnt realy debir -3 so needs also mention. scarlet debir 3 scarlet bolo 4 scarlet rusty 4 scarlet - dersu,tekron,shettera 7 scarlet uzala 10 scarlet elon 11 scarlet verona 6 scarlet umkas 10 scarlet rea 13 scarlet nameless 14 bolo debir 6 bolo scarlet 4 bolo - dersu,shettera,verona 4h bolo - rusty 5h bolo - uzala,elon 7 bolo tekron 9 bolo umkas 9 bolo reha 10 bolo nameless 11 rusty - verona,scarlet,tekron 4 rusty bolo 5 rusty - umkas debir dersu 7 rusty uzala shettera 9 rusty - reha elon 11 rysty nameless 13 tekron rusty 4 tekron montero 5 (this one is much faster from montero) tekron verona 8 tekron scarlet 7h tekron - bolo debir umkas 9h tekron dersu 12 tekron uzala shettera 13 tekron reha 14 tekron elon 16 tekron nameless 17 dersu uzala 3 dersu - elon shettera bolo verona 4 dersu - scarlet,rusty,nameless 7 dersu - umkas,reha 8 dersu debir 9 dersu tekron 12 elon - dersu,uzala 4 elon - shettera nameless 5 elon - verona bolo 7 elon reha 9 elon umkas 10 elon rusty,scarlet 11 elon debir 12 elon tekron 16 uzala nameless 4 uzala reha 5 uzala umkas 6 uzala shettera 7 umkas reha 5 umkas nameless 9 umkas shettera 11 nameless reha 5 nameless shettera 10 shettera reha 12h II Quests debir amulet of ilumination to bolo revenge on lady magnet to verona scarlet contraband sercher to rusty bolo,tekron,umkas,shettera none rusty swil antidote to Elon sohaty - wherever you find them .. on my last game i had all on verona but on prevoius needed 3 island to that so that differs. verona beer - montero but it isnt realy traveling kings bride to debir demenion secret - to dersu dersu glases - tekron pearls - uzala temple of joy - uzala uzala defeat frog to dersu elon lew klisan soul to shettera metoerite jelopi to montero shenobis burial to dersu nameless treasure of jack albatross to scarlet message from the dead to verona grimiore odf darkness to elon reha a massage from shionis to verona and then to elon hmm now just to make some reasonable way from that ;P Last edited by Elwin; 12-21-2009 at 11:35 AM.
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