Patch 4.10 - Development Updates by Daidalos Team

[Sita]

Originally Posted by F19_lacrits

.. And some off us love to fly the cr@p plane (in formation and applying team work)

+1
or without team ...
like a Hero

[Wolkenbeisser]

Originally Posted by JG53Frankyboy

it all depends on the missionbuilder, dogfight and coop, if such "crap" planes are usefull or not.

Exactly! In our squadron we mostly fly coops. Sometimes it's really cool to have "crap" planes in a Mission. When? An example:

3 players are forced to fly "crap" planes with bombs. Their goal is to bomb an enemy Airbase, which is defended by enemy planes (KI) and AAA. The bombers only have a chance to get to this base, if other players support them. So the missionbuilder builds other player-flights as well:

- 4 players with planes that carry rockets - goal is AAA
- 6 players with agile fighters - goal is clearence of airspace over enemy base

This way the groups have to play as a team (ok teamspeak is a must for this) to fullfill the main goal - destroy the enemy airbase.

Btw: We have many pilots, who WANT to fly the crap planes, because it's a special challenge to fullfill the goal with limited capabilities.

[EJGr.Ost_Caspar]

Yes... its all about a challenge!

[CKY_86]

With all IL2 has to offer, and with all the options of playability, it just goes to show that IL2 has something for everyone.

I love how when I have time I can fly a mission built by myself or someone else lasting an hour, or longer and when I feel like just a quick burst I can just set up a simple dogfight in QMB That would proberly only last 5-10 miniutes.

As for cr@p planes, I love 'em. Nothing better than having an all bi-plane dogfight, or a convoy/train busting mission in the Avia, I-153, or the I-16. Another fun one is Ki-27's V Fokker D.XXI

[Feathered_IV]

Often it isn't just about winning, but rather losing in style.

Why not give yourself a glimpse of what it was like to go up against the best the Luftwaffe had, in outdated Soviet equipment? Or the hoplessness of a Japanese low level attack into the teeth of a US carrier fleet? There are plenty of other examples of this. It doesn't always have to be bleeding edge late-war types and arcade killing streaks.

[CRO_Adriatic]

Excelent news!
Your work is tremendous!

[Bearcat]

Keep up the great work.. just get it done!!

I am looking forward to the integrated Zuti with triggers..

This is the only sim that I know of with great FMs, an incredible planeset spanning almost 3 decades.. and graphics that are just stellar.. even if they are getting long in the tooth... This sim is the standard by which all others will be measured for some time... and SoW will do the same.

[CKY_86]

Originally Posted by Feathered_IV

Often it isn't just about winning, but rather losing in style.

Why not give yourself a glimpse of what it was like to go up against the best the Luftwaffe had, in outdated Soviet equipment? Or the hoplessness of a Japanese low level attack into the teeth of a US carrier fleet? There are plenty of other examples of this. It doesn't always have to be bleeding edge late-war types and arcade killing streaks.

There was a full real dogfight server that I used to be in almost every night a few years ago that had many differnt eastern front 1941 scenarios where if you flew the Russian side you were at a disadvantage. The best thing about the server was lots of ground targets and there used to be swarms of IL2's all in formation heading to the target and attacking it together, often resulting in being downed by flak, or shot down by fighters. It was great fun. I saved a few tracks but i'm not sure where they are now.

[bf-110]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

And why just American planes?

Originally Posted by nearmiss

There are so many aircraft now for IL2 I am amazed when people keep asking for more.

No one flys the odd-ball aircraft online, and I don't know of many that are interested to fly them in Offline in missions either. The IL2 is an air combat simulation genre, which means everything is about combat and mostly aircraft vs aircraft. In other words, if you fly all the weird stuff people are always asking for... you would be asking to just get shot down all the time.

If we could get an honest poll for online or offline aircraft; the same aircraft choices would probably prevail across the board for most everyone... especially if they want to survive in the missions.

So why is TD working?
Really,I don´t give a sh... to the famous dogfights.FW-190 x P-51 in Normandy,P-47 x tanks in Bulge.
In the world of WWII games (all kinds) nobody want to explore Italy,France or Poland.All you see is Germany x US.It´s the Saving Private Ryan or Medal of Honor Allied Assault syndrome.
If you want to fly the most famous WWII planes,you can play any s#itty WWII sim,because surely you will find them there.Now if you want to fly those and the "other planes",IL2 is the best choice till now.
It´s like having a library.You don´t want just the books from the most notorious authors.You want to fill the library so it can be the most complete of the world.

About the cr@p planes.War doen´t mean hi-tech everytime and in both times.
Even USAAF was considered outdated when the war broke.

[MrBaato]

Originally Posted by nearmiss

No one flys the odd-ball aircraft online, and I don't know of many that are interested to fly them in Offline in missions either. The IL2 is an air combat simulation genre, which means everything is about combat and mostly aircraft vs aircraft. In other words, if you fly all the weird stuff people are always asking for... you would be asking to just get shot down all the time.

The CW21 looks like a very competitive plane, with superb climb, good speed and maneuverability and not to forget the machine guns concentrated in the nose.
It will be a online killing machine if you ask me

Thanks TD for adding it!

(oh and a ki44 would be nice too =P)