One can see that people are moving on...

[JG5_emil]

I'm playing ARMA II at the moment and what amazes me is the speed of the updates that come for their Beta patch, it's almost every day.

Anyway I've done my part supporting CLOD. I bought it, I played it but I don't enjoy it in it's current form. Good luck to them.

[catito14]

Originally Posted by JG5_emil

I'm playing ARMA II at the moment and what amazes me is the speed of the updates that come for their Beta patch, it's almost every day.

Anyway I've done my part supporting CLOD. I bought it, I played it but I don't enjoy it in it's current form. Good luck to them.

Well .... quite bad example you chose for the comparison ... ArmA 2 is the second game worst optimized ever in the history of the games (the first one was "Armed Assault" lol). Even now, with 3 expansions, a lot of patches, the game still doesn´t run smooth and is full with all kind of bugs (plenty of them solved by the community).

[LoBiSoMeM]

Originally Posted by catito14

Well .... quite bad example you chose for the comparison ... ArmA 2 is the second game worst optimized ever in the history of the games (the first one was "Armed Assault" lol).

No, IL-2: Cliffs Of Dover deserves this title...

[SEE]

What needs to be said has been said countless number of times so I guess the forum will be a bit quiet. I have been enjoying and rediscovering IL1946 while waiting for the official update to be finished but still enjoy the occaisional sortie on ATAG.....best of both worlds.

Somewhere between CLOD and IL946 is my perfect Combat Sim but both have a special appeal of their own. Its nice to jump into something different and takes the impatience out of waiting for CloD to go the next level.

I just hope the next official update resolves many of the long standing issues, if it doesn't then I think some of CloDs' loyal support will drift away.

[Rowddy]

better this way then 500 pages with trolls and whinning

[6S.Manu]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

But it wasn't an alpha on release.....sure some people liked to call it an alpha.

why should it run worse? it's an alpha version of an improving graphics engine.

It depends on your definition of Alpha: to me, as developer, alpha stage is when the application is quite finished and you do internal testing to pinpoint plain and clear bugs.

The stutters were mostly raised by a wrong texture management... why didn't the developers look at that during the internal alpha stage? Wasn't stutters a evident issue?

Instead, Beta testers are usually external users to the developer office: this does not mean that they have to discover plain bugs, but the hidden ones.. the ones who appear in deteminated situations (for example an exception raised when 80 players are connecting to a single server... difficult to catch it during the internal testing)

I say it should be run worser now as it's a new engine, not a fix of the older one... and by "run" I mean the presence of bugs (because of the definition of alpha above)... Of course if you focus yourself on FPS it should run better than the old one...

I still think that the software has been thrown out of the office in a hurry, after not enough hours of alpha testing... can't know the reason of this.

[Skoshi Tiger]

74 people waiting for an update and still hours to go. Considering that Obsesive-Compulsive are only 0.1% of any given population I'ld say there are a quite a few people that are still interested in this sim!!!

[Chromius]

Well, in this time I have upgraded DCS Blackshark to Blackshark 2 and acquired DCS A-10 and Arma II and Iron Front Invasion 1944.

With DCS world and DCS Combined Arms on the horizon I am now more exited over the future of DCS than Clod and its expansions. DCS is offering too much to not want to convert to the modern battlefield. Frankly for me personally, the way that this Clod franchise has been handled in the past couple years and the denial of it being mostly unplayable and broken, from a MP standpoint has left me with a sour taste over it.

Will it stop me from continuing with it, probably not as there are no current WW2 flight sim options. Will I ever feel as strongly about it and its community as IL-2, most likely not. Is it the reason I can no longer go back to IL-2... yes (I am not completely into eye candy but IL-2 is very dated and the new features promised for clod were sorely needed.) And has it caused me to consider the modern battlefield sims as a more useful source of my simulation entertainment, yes. (SH5 certainly did not help though modded now its decent.)

What I am curious about is if there were approx. 10,000 total downloads of the hot fix from various locales, and there are say 100 people online total at peak times, what percent would be mp and what percent is sp? I would also think that once the final patch is released and things are working acceptably others will come back after reading the results here, and slowly some of the IL-2 players will be come over to Clod.

And like an idiot I will buy the expansion at full price even if I do not play it just to support the dream that this will all work as envisioned when Clod was started by Maddox and crew.

[JG5_emil]

Originally Posted by catito14

Well .... quite bad example you chose for the comparison ... ArmA 2 is the second game worst optimized ever in the history of the games (the first one was "Armed Assault" lol). Even now, with 3 expansions, a lot of patches, the game still doesn´t run smooth and is full with all kind of bugs (plenty of them solved by the community).

Plays smooth as sink for me 60 fps with everything on highest level AA AF etc and at 2550x1440 resolution net code is being worked on.

My point is that I supported CLOD and I will probably buy BOM but I'm not enjoying playing CLOD in it's current form especially the lack of coops. I wish them all the luck but I'm not playing it at the moment and probably wont until the next patch. Even then I would expect I'll pop on to see what's changed but I doubt it will have the improvements I need to enjoy it.

With regards to ARMA they have a beta out at the moment and I am not kidding...literally every day there is a new one with more fixes and features. Isn't that amazing? Every day!

[1.JaVA_Sharp]

you know that there are plenty of other games and flightsims out there to try?

I've spend time in

ROF
DCS P51
Arma2
Iron Front
That free Wing Commander game.

And I've enjoyed them all. Wish I could say the same about CLOD, but I can't. I'm waiting to see if it will grow on me but in the meantime there's a lot more games and sims to play out there.