4.12 development update discussion and feedback - Page 9

RegRag1977 · #81 05-25-2012, 03:28 PM

P38 new cockpit: this can't be true, help me all, i don't want to wake up and find out it was just a dream!

fruitbat · #82 05-25-2012, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Alien

I was looking at the 4.12 updates topic a moment ago and I suddenly noticed 1 fabulous thing - the 109 on the taxi video screen has a swastika on its tail! YEAH! Finally!

errm, you can do that with matmanager for years and years now.

Alien · #83 05-25-2012, 04:26 PM

I know, I know but why to modify the game when the feature is in stock!

ElAurens · #84 05-25-2012, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by EJGr.Ost_Caspar

Yes, I can imagine.

New FM is not set yet. So if you have any reference about its FM, don't hesitate to share, because we maybe don't have it yet.

I probably only have the same books you do...

I'll re-investigate though.

csThor · #85 05-25-2012, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Alien

I was looking at the 4.12 updates topic a moment ago and I suddenly noticed 1 fabulous thing - the 109 on the taxi video screen has a swastika on its tail! YEAH! Finally!

It was merely forgotten to switch off MAT Manager. The swastika will remain off in the standard version without said workarounds.

Luno13 · #86 05-25-2012, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by EJGr.Ost_Caspar

Yes, I can imagine.

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Originally Posted by ElAurens

So, I have to ask, how does she fly? I know about it's "on paper" performance, but there is more to how any aircraft flies than it's ROC and VNE numbers. It should have a fairly high roll rate, but, pilots in the day that transitioned from the P 36 to the P 40 considered the P 36 to be superior except in top speed. It will be interesting to see how it works out.

New FM is not set yet. So if you have any reference about its FM, don't hesitate to share, because we maybe don't have it yet.

Didn't the P-40 handle like a dog though (and therefore slightly 'overmodeled' in Il-2)? Genuinely curious.

Gabelschwanz Teufel · #87 05-25-2012, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Luno13

Didn't the P-40 handle like a dog though (and therefore slightly 'overmodeled' in Il-2)? Genuinely curious.

Think I'll let El handle this one.

EJGr.Ost_Caspar · #88 05-25-2012, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Silverback

Shouldn't the stencile on the surface control lock read "FLIGHT CONTROL LOCK".

No, all references show 'surface controls lock':

EDIT: Which shows me, that an 's' is missing.

ElAurens · #89 05-25-2012, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Luno13

Didn't the P-40 handle like a dog though (and therefore slightly 'overmodeled' in Il-2)? Genuinely curious.

I don't want to take this thread off topic, so I'll be brief.

The P40's "bad reputation" as a turner came from it's early encounters with the A6M Zero, which of course could out turn any "modren" Allied aircraft.

If fact, the early P40 versions (Hawk 81) could out turn a Spitfire below 15,000ft. (And was equally fast at those altitudes as well).

The original Hawk 81 had a roll rate of 135 degrees/second at 360mph IAS. Only an FW 190 could best that, umm... several years later.

The only roll rate data I have for later models is for the P40 F (Hawk 87) that was tested at only 250 mph IAS was still a respectable 95 Deg/sec. There is no reason given for the low test speed.

There is a video of I think Hinton flyiing a P 40 for the first time, I'll try to find it...

Anyway, he came into it thinking the same thing, that it was a dog. He came away with a totally different re think of the P 40. He said it rolled so fast that he hit is head on the canopy the first time.

The Curtiss P40 was the most maneuverable fighter fielded by the USAAF in WW2.

Check the pilot interviews with the guys from the 325th. that flew them in North Africa and Italy.

ElAurens · #90 05-26-2012, 02:04 PM

Oh, did I say I can't wait for flyable Hawk 75s?