The Crystal Ball 2

[Jatta Raso]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Dutch

Look, if everyone's so frustrated, why not jump on the ATAG server and pretend that every aircraft on the opposing team is your favourite target for complaint?

Or that any of the ground targets are the 1C offices?

Seems a better idea to me than sitting around here creating thread after thread of moaning.

lol great suggestion and i recommend it to everyone; already at it frequently these days

[David198502]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Dutch

Look, if everyone's so frustrated, why not jump on the ATAG server and pretend that every aircraft on the opposing team is your favourite target for complaint?

Or that any of the ground targets are the 1C offices?

Seems a better idea to me than sitting around here creating thread after thread of moaning.

the problem with that is, that the 1c offices were clever enough to develop a secret protection shield which let the planes crash before they are able to pull the trigger

[6S.Manu]

Originally Posted by Chivas

Considering some of Luthier's and BlackSix's posts, I'm quite sure that the devs are just as annoyed with the community as some in the community are with them. Its possible it could effect what they post in the forums, but at this point, what we post or the devs post in the forums will have very little effect on the outcome of the new series. It will cause a few people who read the forums to delay their purchase, but the devs have enough support from the IC publishers to continue work for atleast a few more months to get things moving in the right direction. At the end of the day its the final product that counts, if the finished product is good then the new IL-2 series will be successful. This next patch is critical, to the sims survival, it needs a considerable performance boost to allow integration of all the missing resource hungry features.

IMO the damage is already done with all these B6's "chief says there's no update". Poor guy.

Me and many others will not buy the sim at release.

[Widow17]

i think if they had good news they would be extremely willing to tell. The pressure is high on them and they would love to give us something to cheer us up. They know they have to give results and of course they want to. They want to make everyone happy, because a happy customer makes them happy too. I think they still have some ugly problems they cant solve so far and most probably think its better to keep silent until there are good news.

[David198502]

i just think that this silence is not good at all for the relationship between the devs and the community.

[Stipe]

+1000
Just what I was thinking. But I am to mad at the moment to write it in calm and respective form. So I'll just say that I agree.

[Zaltor]

I wont be buying it at release and maybee not at all, they seem to forget the ones who are upset are there bread and butter people who bought the game.

Keep treating us like sh!t and watch your sales decline. there 15 people in my squad with this game only 4 can play it, its not acceptable. we have been beyond patient.

[6S.Manu]

Originally Posted by Widow17

I think they still have some ugly problems they cant solve so far and most probably think its better to keep silent until there are good news.

This is the problem: if you have bad issues then tell us.. bad news are better than no news at all.

[David198502]

Originally Posted by addman

It's quite simple actually, fix all the major issues with CloD and I might consider buying the next expansion, if not then try to sell it to someone less educated/enlightened. Really nothing more to say about it, you treat your customers well and listen and respond to them and they will reward you with loyalty. If you start blaming the customers you should either A. Start reconsider your profession/line of work B. Take some kind of 101 PR course C. Give the customers what they are asking for.

Is this really new to MG?! Maybe it's a cultural barrier, maybe in Russia the customer is always wrong, I don't know. The customer is always right even when they are wrong, one has to be able to handle it like a professional, starting to "punish" people by withholding updates and such is childish and extremely unprofessional.

Maybe it's better though, that they are quiet because the updates are quite confusing and they use the word "soon" too much. I don't mind waiting for the patch but for heavens sake don't tell me it will be released "any day" when weeks or even months have passed, this is where I guess a lot of people get their frustration from. Other then that, good job B6! Don't let some people get under your skin. Just ignore them or they will just feed of your frustration.

+1
best post i have read today....i was trying to type something similar, but deleted it again, as i wasnt able to write it without expressing my anger.

though i think that again after the words "soon" or "any day" they shouldnt be quiet at all..they just should tell us what problems they have.that would rebuild some trust and tighten the relationship between devs and community again.
they should give us some insight.

[Widow17]

Originally Posted by 6S.Manu

This is the problem: if you have bad issues then tell us.. bad news are better than no news at all.

Thats basically right, no idea, maybe its because of those who dont think like you or its just the shame. I personally tend to do the same myself, it sucks to keep telling bad news, especially when the pressure to bring good news is high.