4.09 Sugestion: FM locked and sound open.

[stalkervision]

> Не хочу обидеть, но, размахивать кулаками надо было на сухом 3 месяца назад... Теперь уже немножко поздно, не правда ли?



"I do not want to offend, but, to swing by cams it was necessary on the dry of 3 months ago... It is now already a little late, not truth whether?

[RaVe]

Originally Posted by crazyivan1970

For those who does not understand:

Cracking files.sfs doesnt mean that way to PROPER modding is open, understand that, chew on it... get it finally. There are only a hand full of people in the world that know how to insert, adjust, correct ... etc components of IL-2 PROPERLY and they all work for 1C... anybody else, who thinks that he is IT, NEEDS REALITY CHECK. You can stand on your head... use all your programming skills and whatever else you can throw out there... until someone in 1C seats down with you and explains HOW TO, you are stuck in the rather pathetic attempts that look more like abortion, then anything else... And it takes weeks to explain too. Sooo... oh the bright ones... one day, as was said above, some of you mod supporters will say those words: WTF was i thinking... this is all crap.

CrazyIvan??
just some clarity for my slow brain please....
Here is my question...

Can the FM be changed?

Or am I understanding that what you are saying above is that,.. all is OK. there is no way they can change the FM.
Thanks Rave

[carguy_]

Can the FM be changed?

Yes.

And very easy to do it is.

[Daimler]

Originally Posted by carguy_

Yes.

And very easy to do it is.

NO.

It isn´t.

[SlipBall]

If they can have the pilot run around the aircraft, I think that the flight model can be changed....or one aircraft's fm, applied to a different aircraft....just a quess

[ElAurens]

They can make any FM appear online as any other aircraft they choose to.

They can also make any aircraft appear with the skin of their choosing. This was done before, but it is now back, so the next time you get hunted down while trying to terrain mask, just remember that to the script kiddies your aircraft is bright red with white polka dots...

And they think they are providing a service to the"community".

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Tiger33

Two edition of my post so i repeat !

Hi
I'm creator of majority of sounds actually in last version of mod and the sounds are not at all property of anyboby.
I use my personnal records extract to many hours from aérial meeting videos and audio records directly from aircrafts.
These samples are composed by myself with a semi professional software and mixed with various recording levels.
All these sounds are my property and so, no copyright problem.

Have you considered donating the sounds to 1C for incorporation into the sim with a disclaimer stating that very fact? Perhaps if you did so Oleg would consider incorporating them at some point and relocking the sim.. or even adding them as an option in the config file.. newsounds=1, 2 etc.. That would go a long way towards a solution to the complaints of many and maintaining the integrity of the sim. . The sounds are great.. but because I know that Oleg never intended to have the sim modified like this and because of the reputation of myself and my squad.. we have chosen to have no part of the sound hack... unless it is eventually sanctioned by Oleg & 1C.

Originally Posted by fly_zo

if bob doesn't come out you will be playing il2... just as you played cfs2 until il2 came along... no choice... so there will be playing hacked or not ( we are all addicted to it ) . Ah and btw i'm strictly offliner so i couldn't care a less for cheating.
razbijanje ... hmmm... u smislu?

What rubbish... The only true statement is that many will indeed be still flying IL2 if BoB doesn't come out soon.. but primarily because it is still the best thing going in a WWII CFS .. whether or not they will be flying the hack is another story and one that you obviously are not qualified to do anything but make an uneducated guess on, since as you said.. you don't fly online. As for a dieing sim.. well FYI IL2 and subsequently FB has been on a steady upward climb since it's release... thats a fact... and it still is, the only reason why many MSCFS flyers took so long to come over was either :

A)Their rigs were more suited to the less demanding MSCFS reqs
B)Most of their friends/squaddies were still in MSCFS and they didn't want to leave.
C)They were just being loyal to what they were familiar with and never gave IL2/FB a chance.. or if they did they gave it a cursory look.. which everyone knows is not always enough to see what a real gem this sim is.

Many folks tried to fly the sim initially and thought it was all wrong because they couldn't take off every time when they first got into it... so rather than do the work and learn the sim they went back to what was easier.. but far more sterile.. thats why so many are coming over here now...

Originally Posted by fly_zo

well those guys at least trying to contribute to the community ( since game has been hacked)and prolonging the life of dying game and IMHO they doing a great job.
What the h*ll did you bring at the table?
That's it ...Zoo is officially here!

I just cant do the hack debate anymore... The people who fail to see the problem with this .. the bigger picture.. because it isnt just about the sounds... never will.

You know.. you talk about "the Zoo is here" and yet with that attitude of name calling and such... you help to bring that mentality here more so than anything I have seen in this thread.

Originally Posted by crazyivan1970

For those who does not understand:

Cracking files.sfs doesnt mean that way to PROPER modding is open, understand that, chew on it... get it finally. There are only a hand full of people in the world that know how to insert, adjust, correct ... etc components of IL-2 PROPERLY and they all work for 1C... anybody else, who thinks that he is IT, NEEDS REALITY CHECK. You can stand on your head... use all your programming skills and whatever else you can throw out there... until someone in 1C seats down with you and explains HOW TO, you are stuck in the rather pathetic attempts that look more like abortion, then anything else... And it takes weeks to explain too. Sooo... oh the bright ones... one day, as was said above, some of you mod supporters will say those words: WTF was i thinking... this is all crap.

That brings to mind the pilot episode of Star Trek.. where Pike was stuck on that planet with the butthead guys... a ship had crashed there years earlier and there was one survivor.. a little girl.. they saved her.. but because they had no idea what human physiology was like when they put her back together it was bass ackwards.. Thats what we get with the hackers who think they know enough to mod the sim.... Sure they can modify files.... but that does NOT a mod make like Ivan said...

[fly_zo]

@ bearcat: .... if you just could lock this one too... unlocked and newer the less in official forum....

just joking....can't resist.... sorry

Z

[BlitzPig_DDT]

Originally Posted by Daimler

NO.

It isn´t.

"Well this isn't an argument!"

[stalkervision]

being primarly a "off-liner" I see many of the mods as a real plus. It is a real plus to have the actual sound of a me-109 when your flying one!

IMO it is a real improvment!! Now will someone work on the lousy torque curves in the game?

BTW, I have no problem whatsoever with oleg making a server patch to lock up the game for onliners if that will stop all the on-liners sniveling little girl whining..