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My point is that the war had to hapen on German territory. The full horror of war had to be seen by the people. From an allies point of view. The only means available were bombers, and bombers kill civillians. Almost always. Even today. Conversley i wouldn't object to any German memorial. Memorials are there to remind you of the complete and utter waste of young mens lives over some BS egomania.. On both sides. Countries should be able to remember the boys who died fighting for some nonsense that the vast majority didn't start, didn't want to be in and ultimately died for. They should also be left to do this wthout people getting all offended by it. It's a memorial ffs. Not a celebration of the bombing of Hamburg. |
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You can both commemorate the bravery of men who made great sacrifices in a war and at the same time disapprove of the political decisions that led to the war or to particular actions in that war.
The issues are totally separate. Commemorating the men does not necessarily endorse the actions. It's also important to bear in mind what constitutes "justified" action very much depends on who won war. Here are Robert McNamarra's (US Secretary for Defense under Kennedy and Johnson) controversial comments about the fire bombing on Tokyo that killed 100,000 civilians in one night during the time McNamarra was serving in the XXI Bomber Command under Curtis Lemay. Quote:
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Winny and Galway, thank you for your posts guys, I'm glad we can agree on such an important topic.
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I totally agree with Galway.
I have no problem in saying that some German units acted heroically during WW2 - even though I abhor the reason. The thing with war is that despite the vast numbers of people involved it's a very personal experience, it's your life, your fight to survive. Individuals acted heroically on both sides time and time again, be it a German unit fighting to the last man to cover the retreat of their comrades, or a 19 year old climbing the ladder into a Lancaster, night after night, knowing what was coming. So let us remember the men, the youth, the tragedy, waste and heroism. Without the politics. And nice one SJ |
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