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Old 10-10-2011, 05:26 AM
SaQSoN SaQSoN is offline
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If you're a TD member and you see a mod that looks like it's up to TD standards, why don't you ASK the creator if you can incorporate it into a future patch.
This is exactly, what DT does. This also explains, why most of the mods do not draw DT's attention.

PS To my knowledge, PZL P.37B Los, R.XIIID, RWD-8, RWD-10 models were built by a guy with a nick name Loku, not Ranwers, who seem to be unfamiliar with 3D programs and does creepy frankenplanes only.

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Old 10-10-2011, 07:13 PM
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This is exactly, what DT does. This also explains, why most of the mods do not draw DT's attention.
I'm glad to hear this. Pity that so many of the mods on my list don't measure up for whatever reason. I can see them not being ready to go into the game immediately, but it seems like it would be a huge time savings to work with what's already there.

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PS To my knowledge, PZL P.37B Los, R.XIIID, RWD-8, RWD-10 models were built by a guy with a nick name Loku, not Ranwers,
My apologies, my list of authors wasn't complete. Mod packs don't always list all the authors unless you download the mod and read the readme file, which would have taken too much bandwidth and too much time.

Ranwers might not be a 3d guy, but it's obvious that he's a reasonably skilled java programmer with a lot of very clever ideas. I can understand why you don't like what he does, but you still have to grudgingly admire his dedication and creativity. If he could be "converted" and his talents directed in the right direction, it would be a huge benefit for everyone.

I also apologize for a bit of a rant in my previous post. I absolutely love what TD is going for the game. Your skill and attention to detail is second to none and I look forward to every new patch. The problem is that you guys are on the extreme side of the "fast vs. good" equation. In the time it takes TD to lovingly craft a new patch and polish it to perfection, dozens of modders have produced hundreds of new mods which are "good enough" for most people. And, to quote one of the dictator on the winning side of WW2, "Sometimes quantity has a quality all its own."

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Old 10-10-2011, 07:15 PM
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By the way, no one ever considered making Bf 109T, Hs 126 or Bristol Beaufort? They would fit in nicely with some offline campaigns (Beaufort was used extensively in the ETO, MTO and PTO as well).
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Old 10-10-2011, 10:02 PM
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Default F4F Propeller Pitch Control fix

One of my pet bugs is the propeller pitch control in the F4F (all models, lower left corner of the front cockpit). Note that at high speed (fine pitch), it's all the way back, while at low RPM (coarse pitch), it's further in. To have it all the way in is to effectively feather the prop.

This is backwards, as it should be all the way in for fine pitch (high speed), and all the way out for feathering.

Please note pitch control in the Pilots Operating Manual:

http://books.google.com/books?id=lMZ...page&q&f=false

I'll throw in one more gotcha about the F4F. Note the shape of the handle in the sim that controls prop pitch. What's the shape the handle in the handbook? And what control IS shaped like the one in the sim? Hmmmmm... Great sim, always will be. Could've been greater with a bit more attention to the nits to pick.

One more note. Why is this such a big deal for me? What caused me to notice it in the first place? Why the clock, of course. How the heck are you supposed to dead recon with your view of the silly clock blocked by a control that's doing what it's supposed to do, but isn't where it's supposed to be while doing it??? Grumble... (Yes, this was pre-track IR things, but it still makes a big difference to those of us who minimize up/down, front/back sim-head movement.)

Thanks for consideration of this matter. And, of course, it would be great to see it fixed in 4.11!
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Old 10-10-2011, 11:28 PM
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The problem is that you guys are on the extreme side of the "fast vs. good" equation. In the time it takes TD to lovingly craft a new patch and polish it to perfection, dozens of modders have produced hundreds of new mods which are "good enough" for most people. And, to quote one of the dictator on the winning side of WW2, "Sometimes quantity has a quality all its own."
DT are a group of volunteers but they have rules or guidelines set by Oleg and 1C.

I personally think that high quality trumps high quantity. Of course, everyone is different, but that's why mods are optional. If something is going to be stock, it has to reach the baseline level of quality. If DT took nearly every plane that other modders built, there would almost be no point to have them working at all - just get the mods instead of patches...

I'm not a mod guy myself, but I'm not against mods. I think I'll wait once DT releases their final patch (hopefully not anytime soon) to pile on the plethora of mod aircraft I'm having too much fun just learning the ins-and-outs of their latest creations such as the Fokker, SM.79, and HS-129.

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Old 10-11-2011, 03:56 AM
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Loku´s planes are realy good, and if have any oportunit, this deserve to include in game:


R-XIII





PZL23B&PZL42





P-11F I.A.R - Romanian IAR P-11f license build version powered by French license build Gnome-Rhome engine with skis for Winter conditions



RWD-10







And others plane for Stoupa to:

Avia BK534:





Avia B-135





And many others planes:

Ki-44
D4Y2
J7W1
Ki 98
J4M
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Old 10-11-2011, 07:17 AM
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aircraft production by Loku looks veeeeeery good !!!
but they are unlikely will be included into the patch
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Old 10-11-2011, 09:07 AM
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How many of the planes listed/shown have complete LOD models and not just the first one? Which match the polycount and texture size limits as set by 1C? Which ones do not violate some copyright law? Which authors want to have their creation in an official patch in the first place? And what's not subject to the NG issue?

Maybe if you filtered your list a little after these criteria it would help TD to find the good and useful things. Pointing out 3 good ones is always better than listing 30 possible ones.
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Old 10-11-2011, 04:23 PM
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All Loku´s planes listed are complete, Avia BK534 by Stoupa (autor of B-534 model) are done and will be great in game, and B-135 is in work.
K-44 first model is done, the others versions in work by Tainan
D4Y2 in work by Kodama (nice model need the cockpit)
J7W1 done whit cockpit and it´s a realy nice model
Ki 98 need cockpit or maybe can be used whit AI
J4M need cockpit or maybe can be used whit AI

And are others models that will be good for the game.
Ju-88C variants
Fw190 D-11 & D-13 by old AAA
Fw190 D-14 & D-15 by Gerd
Spitfire Mk XII and XIV by AAA
SeaHurricanes by Muas
SeaGladiators
Seafires MkI/II/XV
HurricaneMkIIa/IId/IV ant trop models
Remodeled external model for BF-109´s
(and maybe can be added BF-109 G-4, G-5, G-5AS, G-6TAil, G-14AS, K-6 and K-14, including trop versions )
P-38E/F/G/H
P-47N-15
Remodeled MIG-3 for aviaskins (and maybe can be added MIG-1 )
Remodeled YAK´s for aviaskins
I-15 M22 & M25 by Aviaskins
I-16 type 27/29 by Aviaskins

Nightfighters:
Bf 110 G-4NJ (functional radar)

Cockpits:
Cockpit DO-217K
Remodeled cockpit for BF-109´s
Remodeled cockpit for P-47´s
Retextured Cockpit for La´s, Lagg´s, Yak´s, Mig´s and IL-2´s
Retextured Cockpit for P-11 (this terrible cockpit, when i fly it i´m feling in old days of CFS I)

DT are make a wonderfull work in IL-2, and the last updates are amazing, P-8 cockpit and others planes, but i think there are others nice works done for other people in out side, and maybe this work can be added in game.

Tank´s for your graet work.

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Old 10-11-2011, 06:55 PM
EJGr.Ost_Caspar EJGr.Ost_Caspar is offline
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Loku´s planes are realy good, and if have any oportunit, this deserve to include in game:


R-XIII




Is Loku also the author of the R-XIII for MSFS?

http://www.simhangar.com/main1/index...lublin&lang=en

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