ATAG Dedicated Server is up!

[klem]

Hi Bliss

Have you considered having 'engines warm' on your server?

If we consider that we are 'at readiness' the groundcrew would have kept the engines warm ready for a scramble. Also, I know I say don't take off from a field under attack but sometimes I do and to sit there being vulched while the engine warms up is a bit annoying and unreal.

There may be reasons why some guys would want to sit and wait for the engine to warm up but that's not very realistic from an operational point of view. Its ok if you're just wanting to go through the whole process off line just for the added realism of a test flight.

[TomcatViP]

Originally Posted by klem

Hi Bliss

Its ok if you're just wanting to go through the whole process off line just for the added realism of a test flight.

Yes we want. There was many airfield all over sthern england (dispersed) and so does we have some choice fro re-spawning. If you intend to arrive at 15kft over the front line (wich shld be the coast of England during BoB) then choosing an airfield 50km away from the coast seems to be more a logical choice.

I am always surprised how the action on ATAG can be so packed low ard hawkinge or high over the Calais (!?).

[SEE]

Why is it Hawking that seems to attract the low level sorties? Manston and nearby rarely gets that level of attention so I use those bases

There were 60 players last night, I and another player escorted a flight of Wellingtons to and from the target without a single attack.

It seems that a lot of players on both sides prefer and enjoy the low level sorties which is why I think Trumps suggestion could help though my gut feeling is that it probably won't (it takes a while to get to around 20K) and not a lot happens player v player. When you do get the odd escort, the challenge of confronting any escort and downing the bombers is far more satisfying and more in the spirit of the BoB (for myself and a few others anyway). Which is OK...each to their own!

[Ataros]

Originally Posted by McFeckit

In the video of Mr. X I noticed he/she uses a zoom function when looking out of the cockpit. Surely that contravenes reality? I don't remember WWII pilots having zoomable eyes or a hand pair of binnocs.

Can this zoom function be banned from the server ? I certainly won't be using it as i'm all for realism.

On the contrary 30 degrees FOV ( zoomed in) gives you realistic dimensions of objects because average monitor occupies about 30 deg. of your real life(RL) FOV in your room. Only in this mode ingame 30 dg. = RL 30 deg.. That is why it is included in game.

60 and 90 deg. FOVs included in game because in RL our total FOV is about 180 degrees. You can check it if you raise your hands to your sides and move fingers you can see movement of both hands with peripheral vision without moving your eyes.

Ingame 90 deg. FOV is only an attempt to squeeze RL 90 deg. into a small monitor window which occupies only 30 deg. of your RL FOV. Thus with 90 deg. ingame FOV all objects appear more than 3 times smaller than in real life

This is a known game-design issue: average monitor can not provide realistic 180 deg. FOV and only 40-50 inch panels can provide about 90 deg. RL FOV.

[_79_dev]

~S~

...The normal human visual field extends to approximately 60 degrees nasally (toward the nose, or inward) from the vertical meridian in each eye, to 100 degrees temporally (away from the nose, or outwards) from the vertical meridian, and approximately 60 degrees above and 75 below the horizontal meridian...

[klem]

Originally Posted by TomcatViP

Yes we want. There was many airfield all over sthern england (dispersed) and so does we have some choice fro re-spawning. If you intend to arrive at 15kft over the front line (wich shld be the coast of England during BoB) then choosing an airfield 50km away from the coast seems to be more a logical choice.

I am always surprised how the action on ATAG can be so packed low ard hawkinge or high over the Calais (!?).

Whether they were at Hawkinge, Biggin Hill, Hornchurch or Duxford the engines would be warmed and ready to go for either a 'cockpit readiness' scramble or a more leisurely planned sweep/escort. Remember that both pilots and aircraft were kept available at various stages of readiness, all ready to go. They weren't like us, just leaping in and out of cockpits whenever we feel like it. If we like to think we are at 'cockpit readiness' the engines should be warm. If not we should wait in the briefing room until the ground crew have warmed them. btw, tests were carried out that showed the Merlin could be run from cold without any significant damage other than, IIRC, reducing its hours before maintenance.

This is not me trying to avoid being vulched - thats a risk you take even with a warm engine - its just unrealistic waiting around for the engine to warm up.

EDIT: cheesehawk I didn't realise that. You mean that CEM is disabled if you select warm engines? Another bug on the windscreen of real life

[trumps]

the thing that makes it really difficult is that unlike the real BoB in which a raid consisting of bomber groups and their attached escorts were picked up by RDF over france as they formed up into a complete unit, in Cod we have sporadic bomber groups coming over the channel and the fighters spawning constantly with no need for them to hang around gaining altitude to form an escort. there ends up just being a constant stream of 1's and 2's luftwaffe fighters heading over.
If maybe there was a bomber raid that formed up and circled at say 4-5k above Calais, and French point every say 10 minutes before heading over it might serve as a marker, or rally point for the LW fighters. i know for my part that i quite enjoy escorting bombers but due to rarely being able to locate my bombers before they head across the channel it becomes a rather hit and miss affair, and i can understand why people don't bother with it.
it would really be something to see the game develop into something more than just another furball server, but unfortunately the only way i can see it becoming all it could be is if the mission design makes it too easy for the LW fighters to play their historical part by dangling the carrot somewhere that we can easily form up on, that way the RAF can take off and come to us, instead of us having to go looking for them down in the weeds.
Sorry if i sound like i am full of big ideas but nothing to back them up Bliss and co, but at the present time i am afraid that ideas is all i can offer, real life has got me by the balls at the moment !

Cheers
Craig

[trumps]

Originally Posted by cheesehawk

Btw, I agree with you about its boring to wait for the engine to heat up (especially if you are flying the Tiger Moth!) and wierd that the German planes don't need to do this but the Brit ones do!

the Merlin was definately a beautiful engine but 601 was with it's injection a far more advanced engine with better mixture control which is key when dealing with cold engines and varying altittudes.

Craig

[JG52Uther]

Just flown on the server for around 3 hours, in a Spit 1 for the first time, and it was probably the best time I have had in CoD so far! Managed to stay alive all night, intercepted a group of 15 BR20's on the way to bomb Hawkinge ( I think) and shot one down, managed to avoid being blasted by a 109 that was sat right on my tail when I looked round, and took off while the airfield was being bombed just like in the BoB film!
Great server!

[CWMV]

Yep, a few night ago my swarm mates and I were trying to get onto ATAG and there were NO red flyers, so we had to fly for the bad guys...