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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

View Poll Results: When will the next beta patch be released?
thursday!!! 1 0.74%
this friday 18 13.24%
during next week 15 11.03%
during the week after the next week 12 8.82%
in three weeks 9 6.62%
after a month 12 8.82%
two months 2 1.47%
three months 5 3.68%
this year, hopefully.. 20 14.71%
in two weeks 42 30.88%
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Old 12-24-2011, 05:58 PM
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No, they will work for free for you like slaves for the rest of their miserables lives.
Funny, I thought they've been paid for a product but haven't delivered it. We've got something, but it isn't what we paid for. The sense of betrayal is still there.

When they do deliver they'll get the plaudits they deserve. It'll be interesting to see what those plaudits are. Like others I'm hoping we'll be singing their praises.

Here's to a progressive new year.
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Funny, I thought they've been paid for a product but haven't delivered it. We've got something, but it isn't what we paid for. The sense of betrayal is still there.

When they do deliver they'll get the plaudits they deserve. It'll be interesting to see what those plaudits are. Like others I'm hoping we'll be singing their praises.

Here's to a progressive new year.
This is a sane post, hear! hear!
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works both ways imho!
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Old 12-24-2011, 11:00 PM
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Come on guys play nice. There is absolutely no need for those one line provoking posts. This Thread is done! As I stated before, no one is forcing you to buy the yet unannounced sequel and you will get the new engine and patches for Cliffs of Dover when the major rewrite is ready without having to pay a cent! How clear does this have to be made for you to get that this sim is being supported and patched, its not being abandoned! Merry Christmas.

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Old 12-25-2011, 01:54 PM
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Default A Pacific Scenaio That Would Be Feasable.

The Battle for New Guinea.

1. It's an all Army show, so no NG worries.

2. It's never been properly addressed in a sim.

3. It was a campaign that lasted well over 2 years and saw some of the most grueling battles, both in the air and on the ground of the entire Pacific War. It was also the battle that decimated the heart of the Imperial Japanese Army Flying Corps.

4. It would have fairly limited planes sets, which would make modeling an easier task.

5. Lots of action for fighter jocks and ground pounders alike.
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Old 12-25-2011, 02:51 PM
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Possibly, but North Africa has never been done to a high standard either has it??
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Oh, I agree kristorf. And I hope that we go to the Med before the Pacific.

I was just showing that a Pacific Theatre expansion was not out of the question, though most think that the Pacific was only about carriers and blue painted aircraft. They are wrong of course.

The campaign in New Guinea was the most trying aerial campaign in the entire Pacific area, for both sides. Unlike a carrier action, the New Guinea Campaign went on for years, not days.

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Old 12-25-2011, 02:58 PM
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agree with both theatres. i have no interest in the moscow thang !.

give me corsairs, dauntless, zero's, kamikaze's, Carriers & "islands" (imagine the performance of the sim simply with islands.)

sim heaven for me.
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Ali Fish, the New Guinea campaign had almost no naval involvement.

It's the beauty of it, because we won't have to worry about the Northrop-Grumman problem.

It's the only way I can see Maddox Games ever returning to the Pacific area. China would work, except for the political issue of the Reds not allowing the Nationalist markings on AVG and CAF aircraft.
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Ali Fish, the New Guinea campaign had almost no naval involvement.

It's the beauty of it, because we won't have to worry about the Northrop-Grumman problem.

It's the only way I can see Maddox Games ever returning to the Pacific area. China would work, except for the political issue of the Reds not allowing the Nationalist markings on AVG and CAF aircraft.

I think you may be on to something
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