P-51D into DCS Sims.

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by Rjel

I don't think I've said anything in this thread trashing CoD. As to promoting other sims, I agree with the other posters about competition being good. We all get complacent and need a push sometimes. If Luthier and his people feel that market share might slip away due to another product then I assume they're savvy enough to up the ante with their own.

Sorry it wasn't aimed at you, I just quoted you for context, I agree competition is good but don't feel the DCS sim is really going to do it, it's really only going to compete with the A2A and accusim add ons.

[pupo162]

[QUOTE=ACE-OF-ACES;383207]But at least you have the option to shoot stuff in the DCS version..

Granted it might require you to think out of the box a little.. But I know for a fact there are dogfight servers in HL where both sides have the same planes, thus you will see P51 vs P51 senarions in those IL2 df servers..


well, thats all possabilities. but not to my likes. same plane scenarios are usually used for duels or for lolz, and bot thsoe things are not my favourite in il2.

but hey, pheraps this will spice luthier a bit and COD will start working

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by pupo162

but hey, pheraps this will spice luthier a bit and COD will start working

yawn

[tintifaxl]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

yawn

That's ambigous

[blkspade]

Not sure where/why people are confused about a DCS P-51D "fitting". Just like the DCS games before it AI opponents at first with co-op multiplayer, or combat with other human Mustang pilots. Subtract SAMs and and maybe BMPs you'll have plenty of viable ground targets. Even them building WWII era ground units probably wouldn't be too tasking. P-51Ds engaging CAS level jets isn't even too far fetched, given P-51Cs successfully engaged and destroyed ME-262s. Which on paper (and accuracy of wikipedia) was quite comparable performance-wise to A10s and SU25s.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSWEO...layer_embedded

[mcmatt]

Originally Posted by SharpeXB

I'd settle for one plane and a game that works really well than a sim with a dozen that doesn't work.

+1

[David198502]

Originally Posted by klem

Same here and the terrain is really naff unless you want to pay out for add-ons. Many people say the FM is far superior to FSX but FSX has such a wide base now you can get almost anything you want, much of it free. I like it for simple flying around over the photo terrain I added although the MS terrain is better than X-plane IMHO. Since I'm not dogfighting or doing serious aerobatics I don't notice any 'faults' in the FM. Its more than adequate. I will get Flight when it comes out just to see what the final release is like.



They are consciously targetting a different market, trying to pull 'gamers' towards 'simulation'.

hey klem...
honestly i didnt know that there is free stuff for microsoft flight simulator x.i always thought that every additional content would be payware.
could you maybe lead me to a site where free content is available?would be nice.i searched the web, but didnt find anything which seemed to be right at the first glance.
thx in advance.

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by David198502

could you maybe lead me to a site where free content is available?

Here you go mate. You'll need to register at the site and then go to the 'Files' tab. There are some excellent free downloads. Airports, aircraft, scenery. The Tiger Moth and Goshawk T-45 are particularly fine. Enjoy!

http://www.flightsim.com/

P.S. Once you're in there, there is so much stuff it's easier to search to see if what you're looking for is available, than looking through every page.

[MegOhm]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

DCS series are study sims.

High realism in the cockpit, and in the models.

They are not multiplayer oriented combat sims.

At the rate they release new aircraft and maps it would take 20 years for them to cover one theater of operations. And that does not include developing good multiplayer online coding.

They pose no threat to the IL2 franchise.

I doubt I would buy it just for the P51, as jets have no interest to me beyone the Korean War period. Too many darned buttons.

But I wish them well, they do make a quality, if limited, product.

Ummm Wrong.... The DCS A10 is very much Multiplayer oriented... The P-51 is one legend aircraft and their will be others added...With the right maps anything is possible so with the right aircraft...You could easily write Coop missions for say ...WWII engagements

Right now our small squad does MP Coops all the time in A10, The KA-50 Blackshark was recently merged and soon I believe FC3 will be as well. There is also another jet being added which we hope will be the F18 with Carrier OPs... So you have 3 Sims that can join together if you have any one of them, plus the coming new Fixed Wing and Legends Series. The DCS concept is leaps and bounds ahead of everyone else... and Shock...they work. For instance... We flew a mission the other night with 6 humans...3 were in A10s and 3 were in KA-50s...two different Sims flying the same mission in the same server... Also a new Nellis Map is about to be added.... So maps can be done in less than 20 years...Ha!

With the P-51 and others to come all we need is a map and WWII Missions will happen. DCS has it right...their products work and I doubt it would take 20 years... Since you are not intersted and do not fly them..your lack of understanding is understood. Sure there are lots of buttons...I have at least 52...but it does not take long to master them if you fly alot. These "study sims" are the ticket if you want immersion...

From Matt Wagner: The Fighter Collection and Eagle Dynamics will release their next Digital Combat Simulator (DCS) aircraft in 2012: the legendary P-51D Mustang. The Mustang was among the best and most well-known fighters used by the U.S. Army Air Forces during World War II. Possessing excellent range and manoeuvrability, the P-51 operated primarily as a long-range escort fighter and also as a ground attack fighter-bomber with bombs, rockets, and machine guns. The Mustang served in nearly every combat zone during WWII, and later fought in the Korean War.

The DCS: P-51D Mustang will be modelled at the same exacting detail as the existing Ka-50 Black Shark and A-10C Warthog Digital Combat Simulation (DCS) aircraft and it will be online compatible with them. Based on many years of restoring, flying and maintaining Mustangs, The Fighter Collection brings its unique ability to portray this aircraft in its full glory.

The P-51D will be the first aircraft in the Flying Legends series that focuses on historical aircraft that have set benchmarks in combat aviation. This series of simulations demonstrates the broad scope of DCS simulation environment and its ability to introduce aircraft from all eras into a common simulation environment. While the P-51D started as an internal technology demonstration, it has evolved into an independent product that adds an all new dimension to the DCS universe. The development of the P-51D and other Flying Legends series aircraft definitely does not preclude the continued development of modern aircraft.

Maybe in the next few months or years CLOD will work without freezing or Crashing...Here's hoping it doesn't take that long ...but hey..they have only been working on CLOD for 11 years now....

[klem]

Originally Posted by David198502

hey klem...
honestly i didnt know that there is free stuff for microsoft flight simulator x.i always thought that every additional content would be payware.
could you maybe lead me to a site where free content is available?would be nice.i searched the web, but didnt find anything which seemed to be right at the first glance.
thx in advance.

Here's another
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/index.php
again you have to register but there's no agenda.

there's more, just google "fsx free downloads"

There's a huge FS2004/FSX community ut there.

Here's one of the most popular development sites
http://www.fsdeveloper.com/