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Old 10-01-2010, 10:46 AM
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I am waiting to see the specifications of the BOB to finish my PC.
At this moment I have some pieces, and the rest will depend on the requirements.
I'm poor (at least, not all rich as some of you... ) and what I'm thinking more or less is:
Box: Lian-Li PC-7 Plus Series (I have it)
MOBO: Gigabyte GA-890GPA-UD3H rev 2.0 (I have it)
Ram: 4Gb 1333 G.Skill Rip Jaws gaming series
CPU: AMD Phenom II x4 955 Black Edition. (I can´t take more at this time...Money is limited)
CPU Cooling: I´m thinking about Coolit ECO Advanced liquid cooling kit...
GPU: HD 5770 or HD5830.. depend on pricelist diference...
PSU: 900W
Win 7 64 Bits

I hope it can move BoB decently...
What do you think??

Personally i would get the GTX 460 instead, a bit more money, but not that much.

And looking at your current specs a 900W psu is a massive overkill, I run a Q9550 with a GTX295 on a Corsair 650W psu so anything over that is really a waste of money.

If it is like u say, tight with money i would wait with the liquide cooling, buy a 650/750W psu and get either 1-2 GTX 460/or better or a slightly better cpu with for ex. a noctua aircooling without having to blow more cash, u might even save a buck or 2.

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Old 10-01-2010, 10:51 AM
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Feel free to buy the newest and best, not my problem , but like i said there are other things that can cause the game to slow down other than "your" 6 months old and "out of date gpu".

Same debate as the one with people claiming they just have to have a 120 Mhz screen because 60 Mhz causes stutters and flickering and gives them a headache and cant refresh fast enough for theire highly developed brain/eyesight.

Look at today, now everyone just have to have a gpu thats capeble of DX11 and tesselation. (for what one might ask)

It's not because I want the newest, hippest and best on the market.
All I want is a reliable, future update compatible, best bang for the buck system.
Check my specs, they're everything but high-end.

But: I really cant live with framedrops to 5 or even 1fps. Makes me go crazy!
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Old 10-01-2010, 10:59 AM
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Personally i would get the GTX 460 instead, a bit more money, but not that much.

And looking at your current specs a 900W psu is a massive overkill.

If it is like u say, tight with money i would wait with the liquide cooling and get either 2 GTX 460/or better or a slightly better cpu, or just save the money
Ok... 900W is because I found this at same price than 700W PSU...
The GTX 460... I´ll keep that in mind... if money support it.
Liquid cooling is only an option... but nothing sure.
Thank you for your opinion.
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Old 10-01-2010, 11:08 AM
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It's not because I want the newest, hippest and best on the market.
All I want is a reliable, future update compatible, best bang for the buck system.
Check my specs, they're everything but high-end.

But: I really cant live with framedrops to 5 or even 1fps. Makes me go crazy!

Didnt mean u in perticullar, just talking about how some people reason in general.

One hot tip though, turn of fraps when u play, waching the counter jump up and down makes anyone crazy and im convinced it causes a placebo effect making people "see" stuff that aint there.


Anyhow, this is something that can be debated ad noseum, everyone see`s things differantly and nothing can change that, im just glad im easy to please when it comes to gaming, cheaper that way

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Old 10-01-2010, 11:08 AM
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What do you think??
Honestly?

1st: You can't tell at the moment because SoW is not out yet, therefore you don't know what you will be able to afford at the time.
(Unless you're fortuneteller, but then again you wouldn't have the money issue - given you're good, lol)

2nd: Your are burning money.

You don't need:

- Gaming Ram, VR will do the same job and keeps certain problems away

- 900W PSU: WTF??? For what? A 750W will be enough for 480SLI. I'd say 550-650 and you're fine.
http://techreport.com/articles.x/19404/10

- liquid cooling: pls explain? They are loud, more expensive, consume more power and are not so much better than aircoolers.

- W7, some money to be saved here, maybe not so legal but...


Edit: I see others replied faster.

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Old 10-01-2010, 11:13 AM
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One hot tip though, turn of fraps when u play, waching the counter jump up and down makes anyone crazy and im convinced it causes a placebo effect making people "see" stuff that aint there.
I noticed the jumping before I even knew how to check the fps with the IL2 internal mode.

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Old 10-01-2010, 11:27 AM
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Honestly?

1st: You can't tell at the moment because SoW is not out yet, therefore you don't know what you will be able to afford at the time.
(Unless you're fortuneteller, but then again you wouldn't have the money issue - given you're good, lol)

2nd: Your are burning money.

You don't need:

- Gaming Ram, VR will do the same job and keeps certain problems away

- 900W PSU: WTF??? For what? A 750W will be enough for 480SLI. I'd say 550-650 and you're fine.
http://techreport.com/articles.x/19404/10

- liquid cooling: pls explain? They are loud, more expensive, consume more power and are not so much better than aircoolers.

- W7, some money to be saved here, maybe not so legal but...


Edit: I see others replied faster.
Well:
This gaming RAM is at least cheaper than some normal... almost in the shop I see it... but... you know if there are some problem with this RAM??
The Coolit ECO kit is the cheapest liquid cooling kit I´ve seen in the market with good reviews for OC, but I repeat... this is a option I´m evaluating... Not sure.
About W7... I´m poor but LEGAL. You Start saying this and when BoB releases... then you may think... well...some money to be saved here, maybe not so legal but...
I hope not your case...
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Old 10-01-2010, 11:48 AM
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I would never put OM in the same box as Microsoft.

I did indeed (illegally) download IL2 when I first heard about it - that was 10month ago - I though WW2 Prop Sim? 10 years old? Probably sux anyway. I was proven wrong. I already invested a lower 4digit sum in PC hardware and peripherals due to it - and I own a hardcopy of IL2 by now.

CoolIT: The Domino is/was one level over the ECO right?
Read on: http://www.frostytech.com/articlevie...id=2485&page=5
4ghz +/-.2 sound realistic for the 955, you can stick with air.

What advantage do you expect from the gaming ram compared to value ram?


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I hope not your case...
I can assure you: I have no problem spending money for something I like and think it's worth it.
SoW is one of those things.

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Old 10-01-2010, 12:01 PM
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CoolIT: The Domino is/was one level over the ECO right?
Read on: http://www.frostytech.com/articlevie...id=2485&page=5
4ghz +/-.2 sound realistic for the 955, you can stick with air.

What advantage do you expect from the gaming ram compared to value ram?
OK it seems the domino is over ECO... but cheaper.
I dont expect a significant increase of performance with this ram comparing with VR... but thinking in future OC if this have better features (heat sink and timing) better performance...
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Old 10-01-2010, 12:33 PM
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huh? they basically say: the domino is a piece of shit.

Most Ram heatsinks generally don't work at all(well, they do: as heat keeper), they look cool though...

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