Friday 2010-09-03 Dev. update and Discussions

[BigC208]

Maybe the Hurricane pilot looks short because he's not modeled sitting on his parachute pack yet. Making things blend in at a distance should not be that hard I think. Less individual detail at a distance should be easier on the computer. The dammage modeling on the 111 is looking great and although the plane is being shot from underneath their behinds, the crew snoozes on
Not too violent but gunners and crew are clearly incapcitated enough that you can base you next move on it. Close in and set the thing on fire or go on to the next target. Stil a WIP but I'm enjoying the showings more and more.

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by Tanimbar

Some have wondered what is odd about the scenery but couldn't put their finger on it - it's the lack of hedges.

English field boundaries, roads and rail lines are nearly always delimited by hedges, unless you are flying over limestone or upland regions.

Yes, I know, this is WIP. I'm not complaining, just pointing out. It's still brilliant work.

+1

i said this a while ago. But don't fret! I think this could still appear in the sim



too green for summer, but a good example IMHO.

And per the pilot discussion: +1 Dozer Luthier; whatever you do, we'll still be happy. But the thought of the pilots seat-position that I raised does make me want to ask whether we'll be able to change the seat position that way...

[Redwan]

The trees are perfect !!! The grass looks OK but it should be affected by the propeller’s wash and the transition between the close view where grass is visible and the distance view where the grass is no more visible is too rough.

The ground on which the second hurri is standing where the grass is no longer visible seems to be as flat as my ex. And the shape of the grass should be visible on the bottom of the hangar, something like this maybe (I’m not a photoshop pro):





And the ‘brutality of war’ would be more realistic like this:

Originally Posted by Tanimbar

Some have wondered what is odd about the scenery but couldn't put their finger on it - it's the lack of hedges.

English field boundaries, roads and rail lines are nearly always delimited by hedges, unless you are flying over limestone or upland regions.

Yes, I know, this is WIP. I'm not complaining, just pointing out. It's still brilliant work.

Well, if we look closely at the screenshot , we see that the "terrain" is blurred and seems to lack definition, like roads edges and so. The trees, the train and other objects are very defined...So the contrast between those two "levels" of images give the impression that the terrain is a bit out of focus , while the objects are not...And it is more obvious with distant trees...
So it looks imcompatible...for the moment...WIP...We know...

But nice work !

[Splitter]

Originally Posted by airmalik

I thought I recognised that pilot!

Now that is interesting, I hadn't thought of those scenes even though I have seen the movie dozens of times (John Wayne fan). My pure guess would be that they used a real P-40 for those cheesy looking close ups, sitting in a studio of course. It would just be a financial decision.

John Wayne was something like 6'-4" which would be VERY tall for a pilot of the era. One would think he would be sitting up much higher. Maybe they modified the seat to make it sit lower? I know they tended to put him on smaller horses to make him look even taller lol. It's not like they were above altering reality .

Personally....I could not care less about the size of the pilots lol. That' just me, I know others feel much more strongly on the matter.

Splitter

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by airmalik

I wonder if it's something to do with how the hurricane pilot (screenshot) is modeled or scaled. Maybe his head's too small That could happen if the model originally was say 6' tall and was shrunk uniformly to his new height of 5'6". I can't find any pics from the same angle looking down slightly so it's hard to compare. Doesn't bother me too much. Just seems a bit off.

I have no idea how tall the pilots in the following pics are or whether they are sitting on cushions. Personally, if I didn't have to look through the gunsight to shoot other planes, I'd rather be sitting higher in a taildragger for better visibility especially on the ground. Perhaps thats why the pilots in non war pics appear to be sitting higher in the cockpit.

Well, I know that spits had rubbish visibilty for take-off, and I think the Hurribus did too. The pilots here are probably sitting up to get a better view, but I'd imagine they'd remain that way as they won't be using the gunsight. In combat, I know that the pilot would probably lower his seat; both for a better gunsight view and also for safety

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by EvilMonkee

AFAIK - didn't pilots drop their seats when in combat? I think I remember a reference to this in First Light by Geoff Wellum....this could account for the low appearance of the Hurricane pilot. Still, matters not the shots get me wet with anticipation anyway!

Yep; I have read this mentioned in near on every account on the BoB or any part of the air-war in WW2 for that matter

[Kyrios]

Originally Posted by luthier

So this is what you guys are asking for?

I'll ship it that way you know. Try and stop me.

Cm'on, now he's standing up in the cockpit
As previously said, the pilot looks too small rather than too low.
But most of the pics posted make me think the pilots will bang their heads on the canopy whenever negative Gs are involved

As for the rest, it's looking good, hopefully quality will not kill FPS... ^^

[philip.ed]

Luthier will have his revenge....

[MD_Titus]

excellent update, lovely to see it coming along like it is. the reflections from the blenheims nose are spectacular.

Originally Posted by ECV56_LeChuck

How many hours of discussion take the FW point of aim? too high... too low... Now you have a perfect aligned eyes on the crosshair and still whining?

oh but of course. after 7-8 years of reading il2 forums i would expect no less. our trolls>>>>>> any other internet trolls.

armchair game developers must be worse than armchair generals.

the patience of oleg, luthier and co is saintly. lesser men would've stopped interacting with the community long ago.