Friday 2010-07-23 Dev. update and Discussions

Oleg Maddox · #1 07-23-2010, 11:10 AM

Folks,

Today is very small update (5 shots).
Luthier is in USA at the moment (urgent need). And I'm still in vacation.
Because of vacation I'll be absent next two weeks probably without Internet access.
Ilya (Luthier) will post updates next two weeks, if he will be able.

Anyway, there is something new to show:

NSU · #2 07-23-2010, 11:13 AM

nice air war scenes

Pato Salvaje · #3 07-23-2010, 11:20 AM

Nice tracers!! but must be nice see it in "real motion"... will we have a video soon?

fireflyerz · #4 07-23-2010, 11:21 AM

Third post ...Yeah

Ok, I give in, whats the new bit ?

Erkki · #5 07-23-2010, 11:24 AM

Thanks man!

Freycinet · #6 07-23-2010, 11:27 AM

Love the smoke coming from the right-most plane in the last screenie. Looks exactly the way it should IMHO.

Great also to see the Taifun, tho I guess it won't be flyable.

JVM · #7 07-23-2010, 11:57 AM

Hello Oleg!

beautiful shots as always! I like the Bf 108 which was a beautiful aircraft!

Concerning the shot 2, I believe the transition flame/smoke is not really correct and that the red part of the flames are much too transparent: the fuel/oil/dope flames are much brighter light emitters than anything in their environments and their brightness obliterate the view whatever is just behind them. Flames never feel visually transparent (they are really, but your eyes will react to their brightness and could not discriminate any light coming across it if the said light is enormously less bright)
The flame shots of last week or the one before were better from this standpoint.

The smoke itself should at first either be impenetrable if a lot of oil/dope is involved (bad combustion = thick smoke), or can be quite transparent in case of pure fuel smoke (many stills and movies show fuel flames very bright and almost smokeless, this being due to extremely rapid vaporisation of fuel with speed/shell explosion and ensuing excellent combustion...usually some smoke appears quickly afterwards due to other components beginning burning)

Concerning shot 5, I see the tracers are there, but why do we have to see them as dashes like we are watching a movie?
The dashes appear because during the time the shutter of the camera is open the moving bright point that is the tracer goes a certain distance which depends only on the shutter open time and the bullet speed (this is a way to calculate the speed!); however in a simulation we are using directly our eyes which only see the bright points going away, like anybody having fired tracer rounds with a gun or a machine gun could assess!
This reminds me of the "camera" light reflection effects in Il2...we are so much used to watch WWII or any event for that matter across a camera that we forgot that the camera introduces artifacts and that the real world does not exactly appear that way to our eyes

I would like to see only bright points for tracers...the "fin du fin" would be to be not able to see tracers from anywhere in front 180° of the bullet position, and more and more bright as you see them closer to their trajectory in the aft 180°...this being absolute real world behavior (the optics laws being what they are) the immersion would make a big leap forward...but I could understand simple bright points for the sake of simplicity!

JVM

335th_GRSwaty · #8 07-23-2010, 11:24 AM

Thank you Oleg!

Nice pics!!

Pato Salvaje · #9 07-23-2010, 11:29 AM

Good level of damage! this mid He111 "aleron" looks nice! and this hurry is near of "half" plane...

Very good shots...
Thanks Oleg!

Afreaka · #10 07-25-2010, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pato Salvaje

Nice tracers!! but must be nice see it in "real motion"... will we have a video soon?

Indeed. Time has come, (or has it?), to see some live motion to all these stills. A teaser, preview, leak or whatever. Something I would look forward to.