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Old 07-29-2010, 06:26 AM
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All these intellectual property laws are very confusing not only to ordinary people, but to ordinary lawyers too. It would be interesting to hear opinion of lawyer specializing in this area. In example, it would be nice to know what laws and what parts of them exactly covers this "Grumman thingy".

So far, I am only sure about trademark law, which prohibits using Grumman name, logo or their product names without their permission. Plane shape should be covered by design patent (?), but its term is relatively short (around 20 years) and should be expired by now.
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Old 07-29-2010, 08:45 AM
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can we put together a petition to grumman? circulate it to all the modding sites and gather as many names as we can?

Something like:

We the undersigned are great fans of Grumman aircraft and would dearly love to see historic Grumman aircraft included in any future ad-ons of Storm Of War. Unfortunately Grumman copyright demands at present make this impossible. We feel Storm of War is a great educational tool and if Grumman were to lift its restrictons new generations would learn of the role Grumman played in fighting for freedom.
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Old 07-29-2010, 09:02 AM
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Pointless. The people who are responsible for that mess live in a world of economical gibberish, numbers and balance sheets. History or emotional values are meaningless to them.
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Old 07-29-2010, 09:39 AM
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One notable Avenger pilot was future American President George H. W. Bush, flying a TBM Avenger off the light aircraft carrier USS San Jacinto (CVL-30) in 1944.
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Old 07-29-2010, 11:01 AM
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Pointless. The people who are responsible for that mess live in a world of economical gibberish, numbers and balance sheets. History or emotional values are meaningless to them.
disagree. you can always make an argument. never know your luck in the big city.
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Old 07-29-2010, 12:35 PM
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Thinking of it - lets hope the remnants of Messerschmitt don't get bought by N-G. Then they will sue my ass badly for my avatar...

Fortunately for me the Messerschmitt brand seems to be owned by Daimler-Benz Aerospace and DB don't talk to much about their wartime efforts, or spend time on chasing small guys for pocket money like that...
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Old 07-29-2010, 12:58 PM
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That wouldn't happen, anyway, mazex. The press would be all over them and the outcry would be horrendous. EADS would get a helluva bad press and they're understandably interested in avoiding that.
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Old 07-29-2010, 01:10 PM
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I must be having a blonde moment.... the Grumman "Wildcat" and "Hellcat" are in the sim and flyable, aren't they?
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Old 07-29-2010, 01:47 PM
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Yes, but they've been "paid for". Anything more ... Got ca$h?
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Old 07-29-2010, 02:46 PM
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and the Avenger is available as an AI aircraft in the sim?
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