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Old 12-19-2014, 08:09 PM
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Old 12-19-2014, 08:19 PM
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I don't agree with this.

You have to get your plane back to base so the "guncam footage" can proved you killed something.



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Yes, that's what I mean, as soon as the player's plane is destroyed, kills are not credited though the player is still alive (bailed out). Can it be fixed by attributing points to the "pilot" not his plane? Thanks a lot!
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Old 12-20-2014, 02:31 PM
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Missing mirror in the mc200 series cockpit

Here is a bug in hurricane models when you gear up or down the wheels

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Old 12-20-2014, 03:35 PM
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I don't agree with this.

You have to get your plane back to base so the "guncam footage" can proved you killed something.
This is completely irrelevant.
First, what "guncam footage" was ever used by a Zero or an I-16?
Second, in the game you still get a score if you ditch your plane in sea and your guncamera drowns.
Third, I just rammed a B-29 and I had my wingman as a witness but I didn't get a kill because my plane crashed before B-29 did.
So I pointed out a simple problem of scoring system employed by the game's engine. I believe this should and can be fixed.
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Old 12-20-2014, 09:07 PM
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In Il-2, the problem is that the kill is credited to the plane and not to the pilot. If the attacking plane crashes before the attacked plane does so, then the kill is lost for the surviving pilot who in RL could still claim that kill.
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Old 12-21-2014, 09:06 AM
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Missing mirror in the mc200 series cockpit

Here is a bug in hurricane models when you gear up or down the wheels
What, specifically, is the bug you're mentioning...?
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Old 12-21-2014, 10:15 AM
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What, specifically, is the bug you're mentioning...?
I hope to see it better from this screenshots



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Old 12-22-2014, 04:31 AM
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This is completely irrelevant. First, what "guncam footage" was ever used by a Zero or an I-16?
Agreed. Different nations used different standards for kill claiming, and for nations where kill claims were hard to verify, it could take years, or even decades, to get confirmation for a kill.

In some ways, as frustrating as it is, the current kill scoring system is incredibly generous since it usually counts planes that crash as a result of damage that isn't immediately fatal. Realistically, those kills would only count as "probable kill" or "damaged" claims.

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So I pointed out a simple problem of scoring system employed by the game's engine. I believe this should and can be fixed.
Yep. I've pointed out one simple way to fix this problem. Other folks have also made good suggestions. It seems like a simple programming fix, so no reason to to do it.

* Assign kills to the pilot, not the plane.
* Assign kills as soon as a plane catches fire, break up, has a pilot & co-pilot kill result, or when the AI prompts the crew to bail out.
* Instantly assign kills when a plane ditches or force lands (i.e., anything but a wheels down landing at an airfield).
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Old 12-22-2014, 10:20 AM
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the same on FW and tempest models

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Old 12-22-2014, 08:59 PM
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the same on FW and tempest models
You mean the asymetrical retraction of the landing gear? Probably intentional and historically correct. Don't know for Hurri+Tempest, but for Fw I'm 95% sure, and AFAIR also Zero and Bf109.

Yes, seems to be so:
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