Warning: This game is on the edge. Support it or watch it die.

[Rattlehead]

Originally Posted by BigPickle

Are you freakin nuts? Just as well your not running this boat
Do you think DLC would boost there opinions right now? Or most people would actually want to buy more broken products?
Its people planting ideas like this that incourage pulishers to pull this sort of crap in the first place.
I think they have bigger fish to fry my friend like making the game run on all spec platforms. I'm no economist but im sure DLC is the last thing on their mind, pulling back this game and its community is their number one priority said by Luither himself.
DLC comes in time when the game is stable.

Easy tiger.

I meant when the sim is up to scratch. Obviously not now.

[Rattlehead]

Originally Posted by pandaa109

I think he was suggesting that if they had gone this route from the start they could have used their limited resources more effectively.

Perhaps this would have let them get the core game up to scratch with just a few flyable aircraft then churn content out in stages rather than trying to create a game that does everything on a shoe string budget.

I think they've had too many plates in the air and we are seeing the result

Well, what I meant is get the game up and running fully optimized and functional, and then slowly add DLC to fund development for future features that were hinted at in the other thread.
It would also aid in the development of expansion packs etc.

Originally Posted by col123

Make no mistake my friend..the problems were not caused by Ubisoft!...and the clock had been ticking for over 6 years!..how much time do you need to wind back!...the underlying issues behind the development and release of CLOD run very deep and I along with others here suspect does not make for comfortable reading!...as most of us can see with some clarity the underlying issues with CLOD's painful gestation and premature birth are somewhat bewildering and confusing to say the least!...

Ofcourse 1C are at fault. But Ubisoft are to blame. They dont care about anything other than there financial might. what they decide as the owners of the intelectual property and name of IL2 sturmovik is what goes. there is no democracy, not even for the developers. why the hexck you think Oleg left. please.

Reckon they were happy with adding an epilpsy filter at ubisofts request?

Reckon there happy and jumping with glee that Oleg maddox has temporarily gone elsewhere. Do you really think he will be back in the same circumstances that caused him to up and leave ??.... Whilst the rest of the team are more than competent to complete the project. THE BLOODY LEAD DEVELOPER LEFT. whats so hard to understand about that. tell me what ? coz its as sure as the sky is above me. plainly written by the man himself.

Personally im quite angry with him that he left. his team are left with this. poor guys. Having to take this shit from me and the next guy. There is not one single user or developer or forum admin here that is Wholely sattisfied with this debacle.Yet ubsoft sit back and protect there own interests. FU$%^ng BASTEREDS they are ! They themselves could be giving a helping hand other than smearing it with whats in there other hand. i only say this because they do sweet FA to help. Iam also convinced that they are quite happy to lay waste to long term gaming franchises, to make way for there new console crap. I just see a direct mirror of what happened with the silent hunter series and there developers.

COMON GUYS WAKE UP !.

any developers seeking a career where ubsoft is concerned. You wont have me financing your misplaced loyalties. This has literally been the last time i have anything to do with them or anyone associated. Besides nobody needs ubisoft "NOBODY". plenty of other options. i would have been more happy playing a new titled game, a new titled IP in 5 years from now than any of whats happened in the last month.

[cre8tive Delay]

Originally Posted by baronWastelan

People will be playing CloD 10+ years in the future...

Sure. your new lcd TV will be lasting for 10+ years at least. Just like the old tube tv did, right?
Face it guys. The times of long lasting stuff has gone with il1946.

Some opposition just needs to detect that CloD won't recover from it's fail and hit the market with a serious ww2 sim. Let's say within 3 years and the time of il2 is counted. I really hope that there come other devolpers with ww2 sims, because competition prevents projects from failing on cost of the community.

I don't have any reason to fire the sim up anymore. with the latest patch, fps got worse for me. it was better with nossao and lowtex mods. now these don't work anymore. But without anything motivating about this sim, even 100+ fps wouldn't make me start it up. There is nothing. low quality quickmissions and a buggy wannabe-scriptmissioncarreer is not worth my time. For my pure simming needs, I can fire up FSX as well.

I don't want this game or the genre to die, but I can make clear what I dislike. I'm not going to lie at myself nor anyone else about this sim.
It's in the state it is. I'm grown up and have my point. I'm not complaining or whining. I'm pointing out the truth.

[BP_Tailspin]

Originally Posted by Fjordmonkey

Freedom of speech does not exist on a privately owned internet forum, my friend. That idea is something you can knock out of your head right away.

Their rules, their laws, and you accepted that once you agreed to the ToS/EULA for the boards. They can ban you for using the word freedom if they so choose, and there's nothing you can do about it. Hell, they don't even need a reason.

I think you misunderstand the degree of professionalism of Oleg and his Team; no one needs to worry about being banned for voicing their opinions about a game they just paid their hard earned money for. They love the game or they would not be here voicing their opinions.

I guess I hit a nerve with the word “Freedom” and for you my friend, I have updated my post …

Originally Posted by Rattlehead

Easy tiger.

I meant when the sim is up to scratch. Obviously not now.

Oops sorry yeah read that back to muyself after seeing your reply and it did sound like i had my ass in my hand sorry wasnt ment to sound that way, was typed with a smile.

[BadAim]

I couldn't be bothered to read this whole thread so I don't know if anyone made this point, but I'll make it any way;

I'm sure that most of the hardcore flight sim fans will be buying CloD no matter what (or already have), and those who think that WOP is a flight sim will buy CloD as soon as a few good reviews come out.

The vast legions of kiddie box players probably won't buy it anyway, so who cares.

Those who have already bought it and spend their time moaning about all the money they spent on this lousy game instead of working with the developers and the rest of the community to fix it have their own reward.

While I'd like to be able to get at the few things that are interesting in this forum without wading through all of the whining drivel, in the end what anyone else thinks of CloD doesn't effect how much I'm enjoying it.

Get on board or don't. It probably won't actually matter in the end, either way.

[mazex]

Originally Posted by cre8tive Delay

Sure. your new lcd TV will be lasting for 10+ years at least. Just like the old tube tv did, right?
Face it guys. The times of long lasting stuff has gone with il1946.

Some opposition just needs to detect that CloD won't recover from it's fail and hit the market with a serious ww2 sim. Let's say within 3 years and the time of il2 is counted. I really hope that there come other devolpers with ww2 sims, because competition prevents projects from failing on cost of the community.

I don't have any reason to fire the sim up anymore. with the latest patch, fps got worse for me. it was better with nossao and lowtex mods. now these don't work anymore. But without anything motivating about this sim, even 100+ fps wouldn't make me start it up. There is nothing. low quality quickmissions and a buggy wannabe-scriptmissioncarreer is not worth my time. For my pure simming needs, I can fire up FSX as well.

I don't want this game or the genre to die, but I can make clear what I dislike. I'm not going to lie at myself nor anyone else about this sim.
It's in the state it is. I'm grown up and have my point. I'm not complaining or whining. I'm pointing out the truth.

The truth? This is the most negative crap I've read in a long time. Why are you here then? Spare us your negative view of the world and go play FSX?

[Flashman]

Originally Posted by Kurfurst

'there shall in that time be rumours of things going astray....and there shall be a great confusion as to where things really are'

Lol, I think Kurfurst has finally given this thread the gravitas it truly deserves

[Sven]

I've been wanting to make the very same topic for a while now and I fully agree with the OP, if we do not support it, than the future of 1C's WW2 combat flight sims ends here.

It doesn't sound pretty, and I wish it would've turned out better but this is I believe the only way to go now. It's the developers to blame and their publisher(s) and all that but eventually we are hurting ourselves as well.

We've all seen what the devs have done so far since the release, I see that as an apology to all those who currently have trouble with the game, although the apology is not complete I've accepted it with open hands and for me it worked out well.

I probably sound like what some like to call a "fanboi(y?)" but hell Id rather be one than letting this sim down.

Sven