Mini-update from devs

[HamishUK]

Originally Posted by Hooves

+10

These people dont have any patience. Right now they are complaining that their 10 year old rigs wont play it, but instead of ponying up for new parts it MUST be the devs fault. If you played IL2 and know anything about that process, you wouldn't be crying like 4 year old girls right now. Trust me good things come to those who wait.

Idiotic remark.

When I spend money on something I expect to be able to play it especially when my rig beats the system requirements hands down.

I would love to see your face if someone sold you a car and then told you he will fix the engine in 6 months.

[HamishUK]

Originally Posted by BigPickle

We are owed a game that we have paid for, simple.
They are making very good headway to give us that, but what people are asking is how far have we come on the process? how long to go etc? when people understand what work is being done regulary then the whining goes away, with detailed knowledge comes peace and quiet.
There is nothing disrepectful or rude about asking for this infomation

This.

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by BigPickle

Crongrats on sounding like a real man.
I'm not interested in anything that isnt my business, only what is going to be in patches which is my business because i own the game.

Then I don't see why you are complaining. There are regular updates from the devs posted on this board.

[vicinity]

Originally Posted by HamishUK

Idiotic remark.

When I spend money on something I expect to be able to play it especially when my rig beats the system requirements hands down.

I would love to see your face if someone sold you a car and then told you he will fix the engine in 6 months.

Well the car company would fix the car because it's under warrenty, just as 1c will continue to improve/fix this sim as they have been doing already.

How about instead of using some car sale analogy you compare it to what it is, a piece of software with ongoing development. Did you really expect it to work perfectly for everybody on day one? Look at some other examples of games being realeased and left in their buggy state forever. Some people here actually want an apology for 1c releasing this amazing sim, it's amost hilarious.

I'm not dave, I'm trying to explain a way to stop the whining people are doing, by giving out the knowledge each week, you know what its like, "its thursday already and no update blah blah" I get tired of reading that crap too, but if 1C had been a little more forthright with some facts in the begining peeps wouldnt be nagging for info right now because they would trust the info will come is all I'm saying.
I'm loving the game since the latest patch, online is becoming more and more fun.

[C_G]

[QUOTE=vicinity;269846] Did you really expect it to work perfectly for everybody on day one? QUOTE]

Ummmm... perhaps not "perfectly" but it's not unreasonable to have expected it to work for more than 80% of customers with 90% of the functionality advertised. I'm a great supporter of 1C but I don't think anybody can argue that CloD was nowhere near that bar at release, nor is it near that bar now though it's getting closer.

To suggest that because many other developers release buggy and/or incomplete software makes it an acceptable practice is a self-evidently absurd argument.

That said, I'll restate my position that thus far 1C is doing a good job at correcting a lousy situation.

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by BigPickle

I'm not dave, I'm trying to explain a way to stop the whining people are doing, by giving out the knowledge each week, you know what its like, "its thursday already and no update blah blah" I get tired of reading that crap too, but if 1C had been a little more forthright with some facts in the begining peeps wouldnt be nagging for info right now because they would trust the info will come is all I'm saying.
I'm loving the game since the latest patch, online is becoming more and more fun.

I think they are being about as forthright as you could expect. Even if they gave out every detail people would still be whining.

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by BigPickle

I'm not dave, I'm trying to explain a way to stop the whining people are doing, by giving out the knowledge each week, you know what its like, "its thursday already and no update blah blah" I get tired of reading that crap too, but if 1C had been a little more forthright with some facts in the begining peeps wouldnt be nagging for info right now because they would trust the info will come is all I'm saying.
I'm loving the game since the latest patch, online is becoming more and more fun.

By the way, I think being too forthright cause some of the trouble they are seeing now. The Su-26 being the prime example. How many games do you think they sold by saying it would include the Su-26? 5? 10? Now that it isn't in there those 5-10 people are all complaining. It was not worth mentioning.

[C_G]

Originally Posted by BigPickle

I'm not dave, I'm trying to explain a way to stop the whining people are doing, by giving out the knowledge each week, you know what its like, "its thursday already and no update blah blah" I get tired of reading that crap too, but if 1C had been a little more forthright with some facts in the begining peeps wouldnt be nagging for info right now because they would trust the info will come is all I'm saying.
I'm loving the game since the latest patch, online is becoming more and more fun.

I actually agree in fair measure with this statement. I think they could have opted for a paid beta (with a discount on the final release for those who shelled out for it). Most of the hard-core buyers would have been happy to pay to get their mitts on the sim even knowing that it was not a complete product, and would have been happy to help provide feedback to improve it.
Part of the dissatisfaction expressed on these boards is a result of mismanaged expectation.
We naturally expected a finished product, not one that would require some pretty fundamental patches to render it playable. This is the underlying reason people are pissed off.

That said, as I stated before, I think that OM and 1C have already established a pretty solid track record of supporting the IL2 series, they should certainly be given credit for that. There's a vocal minority who clearly won't be happy no matter how many updates they get so long as their particular pet peeve is not addressed.

Frankly, there's not much we can do about those people [except do our best to ignore them].

[vicinity]

Originally Posted by C_G

To suggest that because many other developers release buggy and/or incomplete software makes it an acceptable practice is a self-evidently absurd argument.

I'm not saying that it makes it acceptable, but any software ever realeased will have bugs, the amount of bugs will depend on many factors, complexity of software, timescale, funds etc. Everyone here knew the game would always be a WIP. They're doing there best to improve it yet people always want more.

I'm glad it's realeased and it's the best sim out there so that's why i'm not complaining. The sim lives up to my expectations and with time, probably most of the people on these forums expectations too.